00:04 -!- Schrubber1 has left #hardfought 00:14 FIQ: You lousy scummer, you broke the scoreboard! 00:22 sometimes I get off just from touching the scoreboard! 00:22 * shpingrlde looks at fiq's score to underwstand wtf is being talked aobut 00:23 oops lost my protection lol 00:23 shpingrlde: FIQ is scumming like hell, so he has more than 1000 games already. 00:24 nice 00:24 !gtootc 00:25 had like 8 protection too lmao 00:25 rip me 00:26 also i didn't realize but gremlin stole my fire resist and was wondering why my hp kept on getting reduced 00:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 00:41 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 00:44 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3933 points, 7676 turns, killed by a quasit on hdf-eu 00:51 -!- hpardis has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 00:56 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:59 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:03 haha, apparently the dungeon can really be very deep: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1510909355587.png :) 01:25 just cleaned vlad's tower 01:25 second time getting this far, fun fun 01:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:46 EPI: an infinite dungeon that you may stumble into if you enter the wrong trapdoor from the castle level 01:48 DIED: kupopo (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 15151 points, 8987 turns, killed by an owlbear on hardfought 02:01 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2462 points, 3624 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 02:03 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 5246 points, 3967 turns, petrified by a cockatrice on hdf-eu 02:10 ASCENDED: Entitas (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1961140 points, 30586 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Entitas/dn36/dumplog/1510871000.dn36.txt 02:12 TROPHY: Entitas just earned the Hat Trick 02:16 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 976 points, 1353 turns, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 02:17 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3981 points, 4562 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 02:18 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 112 points, 215 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 02:18 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 4 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 02:44 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 02:45 Beholder: messages? 02:58 TROPHY: 💩 now holds the Best In Show 02:58 this is what happened after I added massive bats to fiddlehack. violet shriekers now look like gnomes (capital dark yellow/brown G) and the oracle is uh, thanking me for freeing her? http://i.imgur.com/Hsp3xSC.png 03:00 how did poo just get best in show? deaths? 03:01 the scores have actually gone down by quite a bit... 03:02 it looks like the challenge points have disappeared (at least mine have) 03:02 ah, yep 03:02 shpingrlde: does that mean you and "yer mivvagah" are the same person? 03:02 good sleuthing. interesting bug 03:02 yes 03:03 prisoners are most probably the next entry in the monster list after the oracle? 03:08 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 03:11 yeah, something like that probably 03:11 a bunch of things off-by-one 03:12 I searched for every entry that mentioned "giant bat" and I tried to mention massive bat in the same files. but clearly there's sumpin I don't know and didn't turn up in the search 03:12 Mandevil\splat: Sorry, I was trying to cause a trickery 03:12 well, giant.*bat 03:12 which I did by accident during testing by starting games really fast 03:12 But I didn't manage to 03:12 DIED: arnibald (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1224 points, 2278 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf called Wally, while sleeping on hardfought 03:14 Chris_ANG: why is the thing beneath Pale Night's veil so horribly bad that seeing it is an instadeath which cannot be lifesaved? i.e. what even is under the veil? 03:17 hmm 03:17 poo is just 0.05 points above ootc lol 03:17 until the scobode gets fixed yeah 03:17 hmm? 03:18 [12:09] Public service announcement: the scoreboard seems to have dropped points for completed challenges. Engineer has been called. 03:18 what's wrong 03:18 see what elenmirie said 03:18 ah 03:18 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:18 FIQ: you should put your fuzzer to work on causing a trickery 03:18 but I already did 03:18 -!- stenno is now known as Guest97898 03:18 nothing happened 03:18 oh, that's what that was :D 03:18 nifty 03:19 and apparently I broke things 03:19 again... 03:19 aosdict: 7b0f71d79f36 03:19 TROPHY: OrderOfTheCockatrice now holds the Best In Show 03:19 http://144.76.106.52:7000/chillout.mp3 is nice 03:19 oh nice 03:19 we're back on top 03:19 aosdict: Also, 74953cdeca12 03:19 I _think_ that second one is relevant to flint. 03:23 -!- Guest97898 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:25 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 03:27 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1029 points, 1007 turns, killed by touching Sting on hardfought 03:30 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 624 points, 2830 turns, killed by a bat on hardfought 03:31 have I really not been killed by a newt yet 03:31 aosdict: I thought I had also buffed their damage numbers, but it appears not. 03:32 FIQ: newts are fairly unlikely to kill you if you play normally. 03:33 In fact, let's do that now. 03:38 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 936 points, 998 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 03:40 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 14 points, 141 turns, killed by a guard on hardfought 03:41 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 176 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 03:42 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 889 points, 2019 turns, killed by a paper golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 03:43 I've also not been killed by team a yet 03:44 That should happen naturally if you play fast and reckless. 03:46 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4046 points, 3870 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hdf-eu 03:46 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 260 points, 551 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 03:48 -!- Kontroller\unfoo has joined #hardfought 03:49 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 39 points, 141 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 03:51 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 03:57 jonadab: buff luckstone / touchstone damage too imo. in case a player gets extras. imo cool yani: luckstone damage is lowish but has the potential for "lucky" hits that instagib most monsters up to difficulty 5 or so 03:58 because sometimes you have 5 luckstones and you feel like a fool for risking the baddies in mines end when all these lucstones are layin around :P 03:58 [10fh] UnfortunateSplickettyLickett (bonemon) (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 14336 points, T:327, killed by an acid blob 04:00 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 04:01 -!- notzmv has joined #hardfought 04:01 -!- notzmv is now known as Guest86916 04:01 -!- Guest86916 is now known as zmv 04:02 -!- zmv is now known as notzmv 04:03 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:19 FIQ: spec bonemon 04:20 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death, on T:38315 04:25 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 93969 points, T:38361, killed by invisible Asmodeus' ball of cold 04:27 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 5288 points, 2040 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while praying on hdf-eu 04:28 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 53 points, 135 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu 04:31 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 782 points, 2229 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 04:33 DIED: elenmirie (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 527 points, 1155 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu 04:47 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 856 points, 1820 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 04:51 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 9376 points, 7642 turns, killed by an invisible stalker on hardfought 05:04 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 871 points, 2685 turns, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 05:07 ok 05:15 K2: I need bonemon's save 05:16 or maybe it still finished 05:17 in which I can check the log dir 05:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- stenno is now known as Guest53553 05:23 ASCENDED: spontiff (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2578252 points, 52035 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spontiff/dn36/dumplog/1510748881.dn36.txt 05:23 -!- Guest53553 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24 TROPHY: spontiff just earned the Dilithium Star 05:27 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 603 points, 1653 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 05:30 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 05:40 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1329 points, 1298 turns, poisoned by a rotted green mold corpse on hardfought 05:41 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:46 -!- joemaro_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:51 K2: no I need the save -- it did produce a log entry, but the save was never moved to log/ 05:51 ok 05:51 gonna be a lil bit 05:52 fair 05:53 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 05:53 !tell ais523 heh, we talked about the issues of double-logging merely a few days ago... today, someone got a panic in the DYWYPI prompt, *after* the log was created 05:53 Will do, FIQ! 06:10 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 0 points, 34 turns, killed by a jackal called Death on hdf-au 06:16 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 425 points, 308 turns, killed by an acidic corpse on hdf-au 06:16 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2485 points, 2662 turns, killed by an ape on hardfought 06:17 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 47 points, 50 turns, killed by a little dart on hdf-au 06:17 jonadab: yeah, so I think the nature of my flint buff is such that I don't really need to make it generate in larger stacks or give it decreased mulch rates. 06:18 (and I wish github's UI was better for finding specific commits... currently I forget, have to google "github find commit hash", and then get reminded I can just go to /owner/repo/commit/hash) 06:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:20 -!- stenno is now known as Guest25262 06:21 on the web ui at least, I click the most recent commit (since it's mentioned on the repo's front page) and then paste a hash I've been told about in place over the one for that recent commit 06:22 a searchable repo (not forked on github) can have commit descriptions searched, not just code, also 06:23 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:24 -!- Guest25262 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:28 aosdict: The github web UI is just horrific in general, I refuse to use it. 06:28 git was designed to work well at the command line. 06:29 I hate having to clone every repo locally though 06:29 web ui is convenient 06:30 web ui is practically a textbook case of inconvenient, as far as I'm concerned. 06:31 You can't even use it in a terminal session, because all the actual features are Javascript-based and won't work in a textmode browser. 06:31 The only reason I'm hosting my repo on github is because I don't have a VCS. 06:31 Otherwise I'd host there. 06:32 vcs stands for a lot of things 06:32 Err, VPS. 06:32 a server in the cloud 06:32 I have a server you could probably use 06:32 VCS is version control system, which I _do_ have. 06:33 wow 06:34 I can see why Tangles would want an AU server... 06:34 tried to fire up a game on it 06:34 Heh. 06:34 and my god the latency 06:34 Yeah, that's pretty much literally the other side of the planet. 06:36 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5191 points, 4601 turns, killed by a shocking sphere on hardfought 06:38 how much of the web do you have access to with a textmode browser? 06:39 Most websites can be loaded at some level, but a lot of them have important features missing. 06:39 I only ever end up using one as an emergency fallback. or while setting up a distro 06:39 I can look at a commit hash in the github web UI for instance but can't search or log in or anything. 06:39 I went a whole week with nothing but text mode once when my main workstation was down due to PSU failure. 06:40 SO I was using the router as a workstation. 06:40 MOre or less. 06:40 jonadab: I do not care about the fact that github is designed for the modern web 06:40 And it didn't have an X server. 06:40 since I don't use a javascriptless textmode browser for everything 06:40 aosdict: For development work, I want to be able to leave a thing in a screen session when I get pulled away from my computer and be able to easily get back to it later, even if I'm at a different computer. 06:41 So I don't want to do dev work in a browser. 06:41 I would much rather look at git's commit diffs than command-line git diffs. 06:41 *github's 06:41 github's diffs are much slower 06:41 and provides no benefit over commandline diffs 06:41 Not that the github web UI is something I would care for even if I _did_ want to do that in a browser. It's terrible in a lot of ways. 06:41 at all 06:41 And I like not having to clone Fourk, or most nethack variants, and keep them all up-to-date to see acivity. 06:42 *activity, ugh 06:42 that's the biggest boon, yeah 06:42 aosdict: I mostly have remotes for that, on my one main repo. 06:42 you can watch the repositories and get mail when they update 06:42 without having to touch the github web UI at all 06:42 aside from toggling watching 06:42 also learned to read diffs *on* github. so I'm used to their style 06:42 but 06:42 their style is literally the same 06:42 just slower 06:42 FIQ: that would be rather more annoying to me than just looking on github at recent commits 06:43 also 06:43 you could also have a single directory for nethack fourks you want to follow 06:43 err, forks 06:43 nah, git diff colors are way less helpful to me. plus you have to page them awkwardly 06:43 and just git remote update 06:43 much more seamless 06:43 than having to go to each and every repo 06:43 to see if they are updated 06:45 Also, a difference between my situation and jonadab's: I have a single laptop that I use for basically all stuff. I don't have to log in on separate machines. 06:46 shpingrlde: OH, I can't enable colors on github because it uses white backgrounds. I'd have a headache inside of three minutes. 06:46 So its color-coding of diffs is not useful to me. 06:46 aosdict: You don't ever, like, go to work or anything? 06:47 Why would I be working on nethack stuff at work? 06:47 Oh, good point. 06:47 I sometimes do, particularly if I'm at the circ desk (in which case I can't leave the desk, so there are categories of work-related things I can't work on). 06:48 (And if there are no patrons, there are no patrons.) 06:48 (I do bounce my IRC connection and use *that* at work, but apart from doing some minor design stuff (just text files) over SSH I don't program or edit the wiki or anything.) 06:48 have y'all ever done the fabled "play roguelikes at work, and pass it off as code instead of a game"? 06:48 right, you work in a library at work, I think? 06:49 work work work 06:49 ugh it's early 06:50 Library, yes. 06:51 -!- notzmv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:52 shpingrlde: eh, I would probably prefer to do development or design stuff instead of playing. 06:53 -!- notzmv has joined #hardfought 06:53 -!- notzmv is now known as Guest57566 06:53 But yeah, even at home, I have my main desktop in my bedroom, another desktop in the living room, and a laptop. Being stuck on the laptop (e.g., because I need to stay where I can monitor something in the kitchen) is annoying for dev work, because the screen is small and the keyboard is terrible. 06:54 I would NOT want to be stuck using that for everything all the time. 06:55 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1562 points, 2682 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 06:58 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 984 points, 1998 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted succubus, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-au 07:01 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 362 points, 318 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-au 07:05 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 11804 points, 3861 turns, killed by a vampire on hardfought 07:11 -!- Guest57566 is now known as zmv 07:11 DIED: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 262 points, 1016 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on hardfought 07:11 -!- zmv is now known as notzmv 07:26 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1802 points, 2628 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 07:27 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 20408 points, 13877 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating an Olog-hai on hardfought 07:28 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 982 points, 2037 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-au 07:28 I just play it at work and let everyone know I am screwin off 07:30 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 26518 points, T:1925, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:35 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1840 points, 3066 turns, killed by an orcish arrow on hardfought 07:35 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 35 points, 75 turns, killed by a falling rock on hardfought 07:40 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 903 points, 1790 turns, killed by a giant ant on hdf-eu 07:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 432 points, 290 turns, killed by a wererat on hdf-eu 07:54 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 308 points, 161 turns, killed by the Oracle on hdf-eu 07:55 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03 FIQ see pm 08:15 !tell K2 pushed a fix 08:15 Will do, FIQ! 08:16 K2: the save has already been completed and logged, it got stuck in the bones process -- you could just move it to log/ manually (and change perms) 08:17 !tell ais523 the game erroring during the bones creation allows you to 1) log things more than once, 2) rollbacking to before the death occured 08:17 Will do, FIQ! 08:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:21 -!- stenno is now known as Guest71279 08:22 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 08:25 FIQ: fix was just to .travis.yml ? 08:25 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-17 11:15 EST: pushed a fix 08:26 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Delraven completed the Grue challenge. 08:26 -!- Guest71279 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:34 aosdict: lol just my luck https://ptpb.pw/yC2x.png walked over the portal to water blind 08:37 ooh, good on you for escaping that archonstorm 08:38 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 08:39 lol 08:39 i just walked 08:39 barely killed anything 08:39 er, levitated 08:41 try no 08:41 w 08:41 K2 08:42 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 40316 points, T:7810, killed by a wolf 08:43 -!- Porkmantwo has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:46 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 21771 points, T:907, quit 08:46 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7374 points, T:293, killed by a falling rock 08:51 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 08:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 08:55 ASCENDED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3140148 points, 59492 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/winny/dn36/dumplog/1510080922.dn36.txt 08:56 argh lag 08:57 TROPHY: winny just earned the Dilithium Star 08:58 yay 09:00 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:00 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:00 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:01 congrats winny!!! 09:01 :D 09:01 first for everything lol 09:01 -!- Porkman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:02 i lucked out, had famine 09:02 -!- Porkmantwo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:02 now I'm not the only Fellowship member with a win, yay 09:02 (the first place i visited) 09:02 indeed! 09:03 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 09:03 should i print of the dumplog and frame it lmao 09:07 FIQhack updated 09:07 congrats winny! 09:08 -!- Porkman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 thanks :D 09:09 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:13 i should thank luxidream when i see them, their bones set me up from the beginning with an uncursed shield of reflection 09:13 dlvl16 09:15 that's hardly the beginning :P 09:15 need some chops to get down that far, unless you're digging for victory or something 09:16 -!- Porkman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:20 hmm 09:20 5 deaths below Wooble 09:20 almost there 09:22 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:23 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 33836 points, T:3519, killed by a giant ant 09:25 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3169 points, 4082 turns, killed by a little dog on hdf-eu 09:25 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 09:31 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 09:34 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:34 -!- tomahawk has joined #hardfought 09:40 ever gone the whole dungeon without finding magic missile? 09:40 shpingrlde: Yes. 09:40 -!- tomahawk has quit [Quit: i want depatsy and cure of baby boy, but not am baby boy, and i have soul products grow soul works with no brain, and Japan my friends, even if bad. no magick in Dante VATICAN] 09:40 But only if I don't polypile books. 09:40 that quit message... wat 09:42 Heh, it looks like someone fed a bunch of 4chan to a Markov chain generator. 09:43 There used to be a guy on raif whose signature was "And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..." 09:44 have you ever seen that "allah is doing" guy who pops up here and there on freenode occasionally? 09:45 Don't recall. 09:45 at one point, I registered that bot's nick out from under it 09:45 and I had a macro to ghost it whenever it logged in 09:47 jonadab: found this pastebin which should give you a pretty good idea: https://pastebin.com/xqQMdPb7 09:48 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2356 points, 3755 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 09:49 Eww, pulseaudio. 09:49 ...that is missing the point 09:49 Yeah, I know. 09:51 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:56 CHALLENGE IGNORED! ab5ni ignored the Dig-Dug challenge. 09:56 CHALLENGE IGNORED! ab5ni ignored the Joust challenge. 09:56 TROPHY: 💩 now holds the Best In Show 10:04 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:06 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:16 ZAPM: HTTPS the Web Designer Killed by a clerkbot in Robot Town at depth 8. [9913 points] 10:20 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 10:21 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:22 -!- stenno is now known as Guest70398 10:24 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 7324 points, 6121 turns, killed by a giant zombie, while praying on hardfought 10:27 -!- Guest70398 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:35 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:36 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 10:49 [06nh4] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 89593 points, T:30678, killed by a minotaur 10:53 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 8340 points, 9075 turns, killed by a tengu on hardfought 10:54 -!- joemaro_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:56 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 31388 points, T:2710, killed by a hobgoblin 10:58 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:08 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2025 points, 3184 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 11:13 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 35426 points, T:3992, killed by a wolf 11:18 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1557 points, 1578 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 11:19 CHALLENGE IGNORED! firemonkey ignored the ZAPM challenge. 11:19 rip 11:20 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 170 points, 370 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 11:20 I need to finish up Joust 11:21 so I can get all the riding-related deaths 11:21 [114k] Zappi (philbo) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6741 points, T:4310, killed by a raven 11:21 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 11:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 11:24 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:28 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 11:34 DIED: machinespray (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 497 points, 1175 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 11:35 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:39 DIED: Raisse (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1698 points, 2304 turns, killed by an ettin mummy on hdf-eu 11:40 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4110 points, 3161 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hdf-eu 11:46 yess, teleport control from a random tengu 11:47 [12slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:6994 11:49 TROPHY: OrderOfTheCockatrice now holds the Best In Show 11:56 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12353 12:00 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1571 points, 2159 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 12:00 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 23 turns, killed by a grid bug on hdf-eu 12:17 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 827 points, 2385 turns, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 12:22 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 12:22 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:23 -!- stenno is now known as Guest41466 12:24 -!- joemaro- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:27 -!- Guest41466 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:28 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:33 DIED: davez (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 12236 points, 5741 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hdf-eu 12:33 DIED: FIQ (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 5677 points, 3201 turns, killed by a died on hdf-eu 12:35 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 12:35 Me again. Didnt get answer last time 12:35 ? 12:35 Can anyone help to delete this save https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/save/1510586877_Satoshi%20VII.nhgame 12:35 why? 12:36 Its broken 12:36 try to fire it up 12:36 Im dead 12:36 what happens 12:36 Im dead in this save 12:36 yes 12:36 try to start it 12:36 see if it resolves the death 12:36 ookay. Sec 12:36 I did some tweaks wrt that 12:36 Okay. I loaded 12:36 so 12:36 go on? 12:36 > The mumak butts! You die... --More-- 12:37 yes 12:37 [10fh] Satoshi VII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 47288 points, T:8758, killed by a mumak 12:37 go on 12:37 Done 12:37 It fixed 12:37 there you go 12:37 Cool 12:37 hurray 12:37 yes, I fixed it 12:37 after you complained 12:37 ;) 12:37 Thx, FIQ 12:37 You cool as usual 12:37 I couldn't tell you since you disappeared 12:37 Yeah, but I appeared later :D 12:37 But now all is ok 12:37 So thanks again 12:38 np 12:38 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 12:38 anyway 12:38 now if the process exits uncleanly 12:38 the save will no longer be stuck in limbo 12:38 but can be resolved by loading it again 12:38 Cool 12:40 DIED: fatty (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 0 points, 9 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony on hardfought 12:44 DIED: fatty (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 291 points, 824 turns, killed by a bat, while sleeping on hardfought 12:45 DIED: fatty (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by an unrefrigerated sip of juice on hardfought 12:45 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 12:46 DIED: fatty (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 256 points, 146 turns, killed by axing a hard object on hardfought 12:46 DIED: fatty (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 0 points, 5 turns, killed by his own pick-axe on hardfought 12:52 -!- Guest75651 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00 -!- joemaro- has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:05 okay, so my door work is taking me into one of the parts of the codebase I understand the least: the level parser. 13:07 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 13:14 [10fh] Dugrumb (puck) (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 21759 points, T:2143, killed by a little dog 13:17 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 13:18 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 13:23 DIED: FIQ (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7741 points, 4400 turns, fell into a pit on hdf-eu 13:25 wow 13:25 I screwed up 13:29 The gnome hits! You are hit by a poisoned dart. You feel weaker! 13:29 A trap door in the ceiling opens and a rock falls on your head! 13:29 what's with this message order? 13:30 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Sir Garland, on T:17739 13:31 [10fh] Petrus (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 23472 points, T:1263, killed by a Ms. Pengalengan, the shopkeeper's wand 13:31 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1624 points, 2923 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 13:32 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 55135 points, 18746 turns, killed by a tiger on hardfought 13:34 > Petrus died; Its me. While blind, how to pay to shopkeeper? 13:34 you can't 13:34 Whyy? 13:34 it is a 3.6.0 bug I think 13:34 Im in fiqhack 13:34 uh, maybe it is more widespread than I thought 13:35 So, you think this is bug and not feature? 13:35 Feature? Not exactly pro accessibility 13:36 FIQ: how about to fix that? 13:37 ? 13:37 fix what? 13:37 Cant pay while blind 13:37 should be able to? 13:37 press p 13:38 I pressed 13:38 But this doesnt work 13:38 FIQ iirc you need to be both blind and have no telepathy for this to happen 13:39 it's a 3.4.3 thing? 13:39 because fiqhack hasn't touched that really 13:39 I guess so, as fiqhack seems to have inherited it 13:39 I've noticed it in 3.6.0 13:40 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:40 hm 13:41 Reproduced in Fourk as well. "You can't see..." 13:41 puck1: yeah, so apparently you need to see the shopkeeper to be able to pay him 13:41 it will also work if he is angry, but I would not recommend angering him 13:41 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1798 points, 875 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hardfought 13:41 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 13:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 13:42 DIED: davez (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 287 points, 337 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 13:42 ohmydosh. Found amulet of ESP on dungeons 2 while playing permablind 13:43 Nice. 13:43 That is a quite useful item. 13:43 I must ascend in this time. This is rich present from god of random 13:43 Yeah 13:44 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44 that would be the first fiqhack zen 13:44 if you're permablind, wouldn't the amulet be redundant once you've eaten a floating eye corpse? 13:44 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-17 08:53 EST: heh, we talked about the issues of double-logging merely a few days ago... today, someone got a panic in the DYWYPI prompt, *after* the log was created 13:44 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-17 11:17 EST: the game erroring during the bones creation allows you to 1) log things more than once, 2) rollbacking to before the death occured 13:44 bleh, I broke doors 13:44 and not in the WHAMM!! way 13:44 ais523: Actually, yes, come to think of it. 13:44 panic at DYWYPI is a really hard case to handle 13:45 ais523: what I was considering 13:45 was that if a panic did happen 13:45 the best fix may be "don't write bugs there" 13:45 haha 13:45 anyway, what I was considering 13:45 was to, instead of the usual panic handler 13:45 1: write a msgc_emergency message with the panic error 13:45 FIQ: did you make auto price identify of identify scroll? 13:45 2: livelog the panic (to notify server admins/devs) 13:46 3: abort 13:46 puck1: It's uniquely priced, so that's automatic in NH4. 13:46 right, NH4 automatically IDs uniquely priced items 13:46 yeah 13:46 usually 13:46 I think this isnt cool for unspoiled players.. 13:46 but not always (enchant weapon) 13:46 FIQ: you'd really want to know whether the log entries had been written or not by that point 13:46 not to mention, whether it might be halfway through 13:46 this is one of the harder NH4 release blockers to deal with 13:47 which is why it was left or last 13:47 FIQ: enchant weapon is technicially not uniquely priced (but the other item's appearance isn't random). 13:47 FIQ: I special-cased that in Fourk. 13:47 YANI: change ?oBP's price slightly 13:47 ais523: program_state.gameover could be increased to 1 during DYWYPI itself, then 2 after logging? 13:47 to 61 or whatever 13:47 (actually it's bizarre that ?oBP is so expensive, given that it's the least magical of scrolls) 13:47 the panic happened during bones 13:47 at which point it has already written the log 13:47 Yeah, it really ought to be 10 or so. 13:48 what is BP 13:48 blank paper 13:48 oh 13:48 that 13:48 should be like 5zm 13:48 yes, not a very useful scroll 13:48 I would argue it's worth more than 5. 13:48 It's still a magical item. 13:48 I'm going to ask the vanilla devteam's opinions 13:48 it's definitely not worth more than 20 though 13:49 hmm 13:49 so I have a 80% wish 13:49 maybe I should wish for a fire/frost horn 13:49 those are *rare* 13:50 ais523: btw, I made fire/frost horns scale on XL since they aren't wands and making them their own skill would be silly 13:50 to address the GWTWOD factor with them 13:50 do you think this is a reasonable change? 13:50 how often does that happen? 13:50 I think it's reasonable 13:50 it doesn't happen often 13:50 considering how rare they are 13:50 but also think that maybe the change wasn't necessary because it's such a corner case 13:50 but it can 13:50 It happens maybe once every thousand games 13:50 that said, unnecessary change ≠ bad change 13:50 aosdict: that's an overestimate 13:50 aosdict: like GWTWOD itself? :P 13:51 GWTWOD is fairly rare as it is, GWTHOD isn't something I've ever heard of 13:51 ais523: I think it's about as rare as an *actual* case of GWTWOD 13:51 and you think people would complain on #nethack or Reddit or whatever 13:51 FIQ: oh, hmm, a literal GWTWOD 13:51 those are rare too, it's usually a different monster or different wand 13:51 I meant the case of something early with a /oD 13:51 vs something early with a fire/frost horn 13:51 ais523: as is, it violates the principle that the RNG shouldn't be able to completely end the game while giving the player no warning or opportunity to react 13:51 GWTWOD specifically (as in, specifically gnome, specifically wand of death) is rare. 13:52 not that vanilla completely follows this principle. 13:52 low-level monster with dangerous attack wand is considerably less rare. 13:52 But stenno and I both believe that having it be "sufficiently rare" is not good enough. 13:52 jonadab: Right, the usual "GWTWOD" case is something who found a wand of lightning, or similar 13:52 Wands of lightning and cold and fire and sleep aren't that unusual. 13:53 aosdict: I wouldn't mind too much if the game randomly became slex one game in a million, it's rare enough that it's funny and makes for a good story without severely impacting the game; however, I know that some people disagree with me on that 13:54 "It's about time!" 13:54 * FIQ slaps the djinni around a bit with a large FIQ-bot 13:55 FIQ: was the djinni startscummed for unique deaths? or is this a more serious / longterm game? 13:55 unique death 13:55 not startscummed, I was lucky 13:55 was looking for things to use to get a new death in minetown 13:55 (and hoping for a magic lamp) 13:56 got the lamp, but not the wish 13:56 blessed, even 13:56 was going to wish for a frost horn 13:56 guess I'll go back up and see if that huge armor shop had levi instead 13:58 DIED: FIQ (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2465 points, 2667 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 13:58 or die to an ant due to trap doors 14:02 go team a! 14:04 ais523: the fact that many community members care about streaks is my main motivation for wanting to get rid of things that can end a streak in such a manner 14:04 aosdict: yes, that's a good argument 14:05 hmm 14:05 (and note that this is mostly limited to single-action causes of death. c stoning and dwarves wielding broad picks don't really count) 14:06 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1536 points, 3873 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hardfought 14:08 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 935 points, 1484 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 14:09 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 45 points, 126 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 14:14 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 331 points, 628 turns, killed by bumping into a wall on hdf-eu 14:16 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Delraven completed the Pac-Man challenge. 14:17 -!- joemaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 380 points, 1010 turns, killed by bumping into a boulder on hdf-eu 14:24 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:24 -!- stenno is now known as Guest50575 14:25 [10fh] Petrus II (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the dwarf zombie of KickyMcAssington, the former Esquire, on T:4161 14:27 [10fh] Petrus II (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 34444 points, T:4192, killed by a warhorse, while praying 14:27 -!- puck1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0-dev] 14:27 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 14:28 ais523: best in show is still tight :P 14:29 -!- Guest50575 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:29 changed position twice today as well 14:30 is this evidence that the scoring system actually works? or does it show something else? 14:30 (also, have challenge points been fixed yet? IIRC someone said they were broken) 14:30 challenge points broken? how? 14:30 but yes, devnull scoring *mostly* work 14:30 it has one major issue 14:30 more players generally results in more points 14:31 because the ascension trophies and the challenge trophies add clan score 14:31 yes, junethack was designed to avoid that 14:32 thus one can argue that ootc has an unfair advantage at the moment due to having 2 more players 14:32 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Entitas accepted the Joust challenge. 14:32 DCSS's tournaments cap clans at 6 players to avoid the issue 14:32 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:20593 14:32 so I'd rather us win not on points alone, but by a large enough margin to make it clear taht we having more players wasn't the only thing that made us win 14:32 I'm not sure if I like that 14:32 *that 14:33 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased spellbook of polymorph", on T:20594 14:33 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2664 points, 2605 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while praying on hardfought 14:33 ais523: not sure on the optimal solution here while preserving most of the trophies 14:33 other than making ascension and challenge trophies don't count for clan score 14:34 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1216 points, 1384 turns, killed by a boiling potion on hdf-eu 14:34 (except possibly for the "first challenge victory") 14:35 junethack's solution is normally to require coordination for that sort of thing 14:35 -!- deadnoob has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:35 so that a spamclan doesn't get an advantage, but a large, coordinated clan does 14:36 currently I'd consider the clans close enough in playercount that I wouldn't call ootc a spam clan :P 14:36 but yeah 14:36 (13/11/11 for top 3 atm) 14:38 I'm not claiming there are spamclans this year 14:38 they've been tried in the past though 14:38 heh 14:38 hmm 14:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 14:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 14:44 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1111 points, 1513 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 14:46 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:49 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 402 points, 563 turns, killed by bumping into a wall on hdf-eu 14:50 ais523: how do I display animations in NH3? I'm not seeing any despite runmode:crawl 14:51 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2641 points, 2798 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 14:52 FIQ: runmode only affects the movement commands I think? 14:52 you'll also need to turn on timed_delay though 14:52 which affects the /backend/ of the animations, it doesn't know how to render without that 14:53 and that isn't the default because NetHack still assumes you use a physical VT100 for some reason 14:53 ahh 14:53 so that is what was wrong 14:53 thanks 14:54 hmm 14:54 no 14:54 also turn off null, if it's on 14:54 oh 14:54 weird 14:54 hm 14:55 no it is off 14:55 I don't know what happens if they're both on but they contradict each other 14:55 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 482 points, 1663 turns, killed by a little dog on hdf-eu 14:55 anyway is timed_delay a saved option? 14:55 I can't turn it on ingame 14:55 but turning it off in file didn't seem to have done anything 14:56 ais523: btw, I can see why you wasn't a fan of the NH3 options system 14:57 yes, it's insane :-( 14:57 I still like AceHack's but nobody will let me use it 14:57 (where options were intentionally kept to one screenful to encourage them to be things that people could actually think about, rather than pages and pages of options that people will probably set incorrectly) 14:58 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2209 points, 1585 turns, killed by a purple worm on hdf-eu 14:58 yes, I think acehack go too far 14:58 there's a lot of options here I have no idea what they do 14:59 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:59 is eight_bit_tty relevant in some way? or ignitr, legacy, sparkle 14:59 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 14:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 14:59 *ignintr 14:59 FIQ: sparkle is relevant to animations but possibly not that one 15:00 ignintr basically just affects how ctrl-c functions; libuncursed has a similar option but it's forced to on by NH4 rather than being customizable 15:00 yeah I know what sparkle does, but was wondering if ti did more than mess with that sparkly thing in NH3 15:00 (i.e. it's customizable in libuncursed but NH4 forces it to a particular value, because Ctrl-C is an actual keybinding there) 15:00 ok 15:00 legacy controls the cutscene you get when loading 15:00 "It is written in the book of…" 15:00 ahh that thing 15:00 eight_bit_tty is a mess 15:01 should it be enabled or disabled? 15:01 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 850 points, 2291 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 15:01 I'm not 100% sure what it does, if anything; my best guess is that it controls how non-ASCII characters in the options file are parsed 15:01 if you're using decgraphics or ascii, it should be disabled 15:01 if you're using ibmgraphics, I have no idea 15:02 DIED: deki (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 758 points, 753 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 15:02 err, unless it happens to control the use of the csi character, in which case you'd have to enable it on any sane terminal, but I don't think it does because if it did it would be a really common misconfiguration and I'd probably have seen it reported by now 15:02 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03 hmm 15:03 ok so I have some option enabled that messes up animations 15:03 but I don't know what 15:03 because on US 15:03 I get proper animations 15:05 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1224 points, 1793 turns, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 15:07 [114k] kenanbit (Rog Syl Fem Cha), 6762 points, T:1836, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:08 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Ran-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1190804 points, 34938 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1510935497.dn36.txt 15:09 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the Lowest RealTime ascension 15:13 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 15:15 ais523: ok so 15:15 if null is enabled 15:15 then I get working animations 15:15 if null is disabled 15:15 I don't 15:15 that took a lot of trial and error to find out 15:16 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3785 points, 3993 turns, killed by a white unicorn on hardfought 15:16 and null defaults to being enabled 15:18 but this makes no sense... 15:18 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options 15:18 this page claims null defaults to false 15:18 but it dosn't 15:18 it defaults to true 15:18 *doesn't 15:19 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:22 nighttime doesn't begin until 10 PM server time in 3.6, does it? 15:22 kind of important for me to know that right now 15:24 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1102 points, 2961 turns, killed by a straw golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 15:25 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 11039 points, 5428 turns, killed by a gremlin, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 15:31 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 238 points, 923 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 15:31 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 158 points, 125 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 15:31 FIQ: …I give up 15:32 do you know what is going on? 15:36 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 15:38 hm 15:38 [114k] kenanbit (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 5547 points, T:2168, killed by a rothe 15:38 I don't think knights can die due to trying to jump through a narrow crevice with their innate jumping D: 15:39 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 15:43 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 647 points, 1726 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 15:46 yeah, not possible 15:46 without xray, at least 15:50 DIED: davez (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1383 points, 1909 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 15:54 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Cerberus, on T:24947 16:09 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 28 turns, killed by bumping into a wall, while moving through the air on hardfought 16:12 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 99 points, 135 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 16:14 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Web Designer Killed by a radbeetle in the space base at depth 7. [8359 points] 16:16 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:22 DIED: ab5ni (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 10030 points, 5516 turns, killed by a minotaur on hardfought 16:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 16:25 -!- stenno is now known as Guest97928 16:29 -!- Guest97928 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:31 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased bag of holding", on T:27719 16:32 -!- PaRaD0xxR has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Web Designer Killed by a mutant ninja turtle in the sewer at depth 9. [10563 points] 16:34 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1131 points, 1901 turns, killed by a dog on hardfought 16:37 DIED: Luxidream (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1011 points, 2103 turns, killed by a djinni on hardfought 16:38 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 395 points, 817 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 16:40 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 16:42 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 258 points, 715 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hardfought 16:52 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1452 points, 2223 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hardfought 17:06 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 17:08 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:10 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 17:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 17:12 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:29899 17:31 DIED: Webmant (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 317 points, 692 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 17:34 DIED: greqrg (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 16846 points, 14249 turns, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 17:35 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Entitas completed the Joust challenge. 17:46 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:31408 17:46 DIED: Qwesti (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 38 points, 93 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 17:49 hi 17:49 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 17:51 hmm, somehow K2 seems like the wrong person to be greeting like that 17:51 "welcome back to #hardfought" perhaps? 17:51 heh 17:51 it's just nice to get a response 17:52 "Hello K2 my master and overlord, welcome back to #hardfought"? 17:52 no... amy has thatlocked down 17:52 "How may I ease your life, O grand exalted master?" -- Calvin, using a tape recorder to give his tinker-toy robot a voice. 17:53 :) 17:53 how goes it all? 17:54 I personally am stuck in door hell. 17:54 Trying to sort out the many many ways the code touches door stuff. 17:55 I'm torn on whether doors are less bad or even worse than stairs 17:55 stair code has a habit of reacting really weirdly when you try to change it 17:55 it's very tightly coupled 17:55 [07nd] Menche (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 5027 points, T:2655, killed by a killer bee, while moving through the air 17:55 whereas doors are fairly loosely coupled, they're just mentioned all over the place 17:55 hrm 17:55 so it's a really big grep if you want to, e.g., add a new state a door can be in 17:55 that's what I'm doing :D 17:56 what is that new state? 17:56 aosdict: half-open? 17:56 well, not state but type. 17:56 Iron doors. 17:56 Ah. Not breakable? 17:56 Right. 17:56 Can they still be kicked open? 17:56 (If not, you have to be careful where the level generator puts them.) 17:57 I suppose an unlocked one can, but not a locked one. 17:57 Ah. 17:57 I plan to bias them to be nearly absent in upper levels but get more common as you go lower 17:57 What is the goal or rationale for adding them? 17:57 the bigger plus is that they could be used in special levels 17:57 So basically, make carrying a key all the time even more mandatory? 17:58 DIED: Entitas (Kni-Hum-Mal-Cha), 25312 points, 9922 turns, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster on hardfought 17:58 Or have some means of opening stuff, like the spell of knock. 17:58 can they be destroyed by wands of digging? wands of lighting? thrown potions of water? 17:58 *wands of lightning 17:59 currently none of the above 17:59 Thrown potions of water? 17:59 the idea is that you can't bash it down 17:59 is a rusty iron door more likely to stick when opened? 17:59 or destroy it through brute force 17:59 jonadab: water normally destroys iron in NetHack 17:59 or at least damages it 17:59 ais523: I don't have enough bits for a rusty iron door :P 17:59 now I'm trying to remember which roguelike it is where people run round stealing all the doors 18:00 that was a D&D campaign 18:00 there are now 5 bits to work with, two for actual door state, one for locked, one for trapped, and now one for iron. 18:00 the GM forgot just how valuable adamantium was, pound for pound 18:00 Jendic: yes, IIRC there's a roguelike too 18:00 one of the major ones 18:00 maybe ADOM? 18:01 (Previously, it implemented the door state as separate bit masks, which was... weird 18:01 ) 18:01 now you're reminding me of AceHack's terrain compression 18:01 in order to fit more data into a struct of the same size, by exploiting otherwise illegal combinations of bits 18:02 well, none of the bit shuffling I did was illegal. 18:02 There are in fact only four door states in NetHack (none, broken, open, closed). 18:03 locked 18:03 Trapped and locked are independent and only apply to closed doors. 18:03 Ah. 18:03 So set the door to trapped+open to indicate that it's iron :-) 18:03 (But then you can't have an open iron door, hmm.) 18:04 yeah, so the most sensible solution is to pack the state into 2 bits and keep trapped and locked as their own bits 18:04 which frees up one bit for iron 18:04 I assume you don't currently care about breaking save compatibility? 18:04 (early stages of a new patchset/variant) 18:05 ais523: My mission statement is to stick very close to vanilla. So yes, no breaking save compat. 18:05 ? 18:06 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06 the second sentence doesn't follow from the first, and the "yes" contradicts the rest of the second sentence 18:06 Well, I suppose this would break save compat in that the bits don't mean the same thing. 18:06 (you can stay close to vanilla but nonetheless use a different save file format, people loading games between the two seems fairly unlikely) 18:06 yes, that's what I mean. 18:07 basically trying to be "vanilla $NEXTVERSION plus some cool features that aren't in it" 18:08 btw, it shouldn't surprise anyone, but $NEXTVERSION is currently planned to be 3.6.1 18:09 it's nice to say "oh, paxed committed something neat? lemme just git pull... now it's in this too" 18:10 changing all the door code is the sort of thing that breaks that fairly quickly ;-) 18:11 well, that's why we have branches 18:15 btw, when doing a large refactor like this 18:15 you normally want to replace hardcoded code that you have to change anyway with accessor macros 18:15 so that you can change it easily if the same code changes a second time 18:16 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 18:17 right, I've been doing that 18:18 though I think it's okay to let the code say stuff like lev->doormask = D_NODOOR if it wants to overwrite the entire mask with it 18:20 -!- Kontroller\unfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24 DIED: Qwesti (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1069 points, 1848 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 18:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 18:26 -!- stenno is now known as Guest87792 18:27 DIED: arnibald (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 580 points, 1997 turns, killed by a watchman on hardfought 18:30 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 80616 points, 19434 turns, killed by an elf-lord on hardfought 18:31 i want to play. i really do 18:31 but i'm not entirely sober atm 18:31 ;) 18:31 -!- Guest87792 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:31 what to do... 18:32 play a non-tourney game 18:32 on a variant which you don't have an active game for 18:32 i should 18:32 but i probably wont 18:32 that way you can splat it repeatedly due to being drunk and it doesn't matter 18:32 because you know, clouded judgement and all that 18:33 Splat some slex :P 18:33 hah 18:36 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 548 points, 1405 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 18:46 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 14 turns, killed by kicking the stairs on hardfought 18:46 CHALLENGE IGNORED! dgoddard ignored the Dig-Dug challenge. 18:50 DIED: fatty (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 0 points, 3 turns, killed himself with his bullwhip on hardfought 18:52 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 1301 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 18:53 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 10 points, 127 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 18:53 DIED: Luxidream (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 2821 points, 3156 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 18:54 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 18:54 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 14301 points, 14804 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 18:56 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 51 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hardfought 19:00 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 10 points, 43 turns, killed by an exploding ring on hardfought 19:00 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:01 TROPHY: fatty now holds the Most Unique Deaths 19:02 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 72 points, 904 turns, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 19:03 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 96 points, 93 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 19:03 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 620 points, 1431 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie on hardfought 19:09 QUIT: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 6034 points, 4627 turns, quit on hardfought 19:11 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 253 points, 1458 turns, killed by a bat on hardfought 19:15 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 helping hand", on T:34249 19:16 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:22 DIED: 1dc (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5333 points, 7114 turns, killed by brainlessness on hardfought 19:40 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Jendic completed the Dig-Dug challenge. 20:00 ASCENDED: aoei (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1243540 points, 20410 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/aoei/dn36/dumplog/1510606538.dn36.txt 20:00 yay 20:01 TROPHY: aoei just earned the Dilithium Star 20:07 congrats! 20:08 thanks 20:08 vegan and my first 3.6 ascend :o) 20:19 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 20:20 -!- earenndil has quit [Client Quit] 20:22 -!- aeoi has joined #hardfought 20:25 -!- aoei has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:26 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 20:27 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! jonathanhanes completed the ZAPM challenge. 20:27 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Jr. Programmer Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [39477 points] 20:27 -!- stenno is now known as Guest1833 20:30 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 259 points, 465 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 20:31 -!- Guest1833 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:47 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:53 hi 20:53 Hello bug_sniper, Welcome to #hardfought 21:04 -!- earenndil has joined #hardfought 21:06 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:06 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 21:17 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 21:19 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1355 points, 896 turns, killed by a rope golem on hdf-eu 21:19 [12slex] kenanbit (Ele Tro Mal Law) killed Dorothea, on T:8947 21:23 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 21:25 -!- fatty_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:26 -!- fatty has joined #hardfought 21:33 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1156 points, 675 turns, killed by a water demon on hdf-eu 21:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 21:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 21:41 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 21:43 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 21:46 DIED: fatty (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2893 points, 4442 turns, killed by Juiblex on hardfought 21:49 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 48 points, 1047 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 21:50 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 950 turns, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 21:52 DIED: fatty (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 22 points, 162 turns, killed by bumping into a boulder, while moving through the air on hardfought 22:01 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1063 points, 1645 turns, killed by a killer bee, while praying on hardfought 22:10 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3654 points, 1960 turns, killed by an ape on hdf-eu 22:24 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 22:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 22:25 -!- deadnoob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:28 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 22:28 -!- stenno is now known as Guest51765 22:29 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 22:33 -!- Guest51765 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:46 -!- notzmv has quit [Quit: slep] 22:50 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:55 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 987 points, 2891 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 23:00 [10fh] Petrus III (puck) (Pri Hum Mal Law), 11455 points, T:1017, killed by a fox 23:03 [10fh] Johny (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 6440 points, T:368, killed by a sewer rat 23:21 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 23:23 ASCENDED: jonathanhanes (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2286492 points, 51666 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jonathanhanes/dn36/dumplog/1510196542.dn36.txt 23:26 !rng knight | valk | sammy 23:26 Jonathanhanes: sammy 23:27 [10fh] Johny II (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27908 points, T:2954, zombified by an orc zombie 23:35 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 23:36 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2180 points, 2097 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 23:36 -!- puck1 has joined #hardfought 23:36 [10fh] Johny III (puck) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 7830 points, T:570, killed by a grid bug 23:41 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 14218 points, 7816 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse on hardfought 23:44 DIED: jonathanhanes (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 2723 points, 2462 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 23:47 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 38075 points, 25322 turns, petrified by a cockatrice on altorg 23:48 TROPHY: buffy just earned the Lead Star 23:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 23:50 -!- stenno is now known as Guest99240