00:00 DIED: Mandevil (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 418 points, 1079 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 00:00 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 00:10 who did a 14-conduct 00:10 porkman? 00:12 [08un] KickyMcAssingtn (Val Hum Fem Law), 14370 points, T:5366, killed by Mr. Siverek, the shopkeeper 00:12 Arrhythmia 00:17 -!- Guest11600 has quit [Changing host] 00:17 -!- Guest11600 has joined #hardfought 00:18 QUIT: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1001 points, 405 turns, quit on hdf-eu 00:18 -!- Guest11600 is now known as stenno 00:18 ah 00:18 did that person make a post about the experience by chance? 00:19 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19 well he mostly posted about it on 4chan 00:19 so all records are gone 00:19 alas 00:19 -!- Jonathanhanes_ has joined #hardfought 00:20 there's a 15 conduct by solarflare!!! 00:20 they are the same person :D 00:20 oh 00:20 improssive stoff 00:20 where do they chill 00:20 didn't realize it was 15, even :D 00:21 roguelike thread on 4chan, http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/195574348 (although everyone is just posting anonymously there) 00:22 I'm following those threads mainly because the people there keep mentioning slex :P 00:24 that.... does seem like the appropriate forum, yes 00:26 occasionally I've even managed to get Solarflare to join the IRC ;) 00:27 also, I like how they made the opening post say "http://hardfought.org/ (Nethack and variants, including slex)" :D 00:27 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:27 what are some roguelikes which let you consume soy products as a male character? 00:27 important questions 00:32 CHALLENGE IGNORED! attie ignored the ZAPM challenge. 00:44 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 00:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 00:52 shpingrlde: you got an answer, it seems :) 00:55 -!- Jonathanhanes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:55 -!- Jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 00:56 yep! 00:57 the reason guard farming worked so well for him is apparently the chance of them dropping dynahack-enchanted gear, which is of course not possible in vanilla 00:58 yeah, in fiqhack's first draft of object properties I got a lot of stuff like that in ludios 00:58 endgame-kit random gear that was originally nonmagical. leather gloves of reflection, crystal plate of power, etc 01:08 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:10 [10fh] KickyMcAssington (KickyMcAssingtn) (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 33498 points, T:4278, zombified by a human zombie 01:20 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 72676 points, 23135 turns, killed by an air elemental on hdf-eu 01:26 DIED: Grasshopper (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4544 points, 4354 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-au 01:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:47 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:47 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 383 points, 134 turns, killed by a gecko on hdf-eu 01:49 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:53 i got the weirdest message 01:54 https://ptpb.pw/_a9E.png "named object not in disco Program in disorder - perhaps you'd better #quit.--More--" 01:55 mind flayer made you forget an item identity and the game somehow cannot handle it correctly when it's named; in any case, don't #quit, that's such a stupid advice, it should really be changed :P 01:55 it should say "perhaps you'd better save and reload" 01:55 damn amnesia 01:56 oh hm it's not too bad 01:56 only forgot some old stuff 01:57 !tell ais523 NetHack 3.6.0 still has that age-old, very bad advice "Program in disorder - perhaps you'd better #quit." Wouldn't you agree that it's time to finally replace that message by a more sensible one, like "perhaps you'd better save and load"? Many variants already do that :) 01:57 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 01:58 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 178 points, 373 turns, killed by a boulder on hdf-eu 01:58 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:58 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:58 i feel like *not* two weaponing was a bad idea (tm) 02:01 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 228 points, 197 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping on hdf-eu 02:01 -!- fatty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:09 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 452 points, 500 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 02:23 [13dnh] KickyMcAssingtn (Kni Hum Mal Law), 50 points, T:1301, died of starvation 02:23 ASCENDED: Entitas (Cav-Gno-Fem-Cha), 815864 points, 32798 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Entitas/dn36/dumplog/1510742440.dn36.txt 02:24 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2174 points, 1227 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-eu 02:26 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 207 points, 141 turns, fell into a pit on hdf-eu 02:40 !tlel jonadab remember your funny YASIs with Gehennom having hundreds of levels full of mazes? Well... https://abload.de/img/ultralonggehennomg9uo6.png :D 02:42 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:44 hi 02:44 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 02:44 !tell jonadab remember your funny YASIs with Gehennom having hundreds of levels full of mazes? Well... https://abload.de/img/ultralonggehennomg9uo6.png :D 02:44 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 02:44 LarienTelrunya: might want to point out that nethack4 has almost ceased developing 02:44 "almost"? 02:45 well it hasn't stopped completely 02:45 also, ais is a member of the vanilla devteam; obviously he should make it so that the message is fixed in vanilla :D 02:45 I meant for the 4chan stuff 02:45 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:45 I didn't even know there was a RL thread there 02:46 it's not larien's job to educate 4channers tho 02:46 But yes, 4chan does seem like the kind of place for slex 02:46 shpingrlde: totally is 02:46 :p 02:46 their impression of the game is kinda curious and interesting, tho 02:46 the "pasta" indicates that you should never #offer on an altar that's not your alignment :D 02:46 hmm got a link or something? 02:46 http://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/195574348 02:47 that 4chan thread is about roguelikes in general though, not just nethack but also angband and others 02:47 I guess a RL thread is mostly safe to browse 02:47 LarienTelrunya: mhm 02:47 also, I managed to make Gehennom have 500 levels in slex, but now I get a segfault upon trying to levelport in wizard mode when it tries to display the menu :D 02:48 (that's only for testing purposes, obviously; the real game will not have such a long Gehennom) 02:49 I'm surprised there is a roundrobin account for 4chan 02:49 [06nh4] KickyMcAssington (KickyMcAssingtn) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16101 points, T:1058, killed by a Ms. Aklavik, the shopkeeper 02:49 4chan seems like the kind of place where such an account would last for maybe 5 minutes 02:49 until someone changed the password 02:49 * jonadab is not certain he wants 4chan to take an interest in NetHack. 02:50 wtf, why does Beholder not process my tell? 02:51 jonadab: apparently 4chan is where Solarflare came from? 02:51 the guy that got like 02:51 all the dyna conducts 02:51 I see. 02:51 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-16 05:44 EST: remember your funny YASIs with Gehennom having hundreds of levels full of mazes? Well... https://abload.de/img/ultralonggehennomg9uo6.png :D 02:51 fwiw, !tell isn't necessary for jdab; he logs pings specially 02:52 I get hilights, yes. 02:54 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:55 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 02:57 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:59 QUIT: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Law), 8358 points, 1706 turns, quit on hdf-eu 03:10 LarienTelrunya: hmm you had a tal in roguelikecon? 03:11 haha, nope, 4chan guys somehow assuming I did 03:11 yeah I am seeing that lol 03:16 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7706 points, 9610 turns, killed by a sergeant on hdf-eu 03:23 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:34 -!- stenno is now known as Guest51199 03:35 DIED: Grasshopper (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2667 points, 2068 turns, killed by a wolf on hdf-au 03:38 -!- Guest51199 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:48 ASCENDED: arnibald (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1426530 points, 53293 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/dn36/dumplog/1509861791.dn36.txt 03:49 TROPHY: arnibald just earned the Dilithium Star 04:08 -!- honu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:09 -!- honu has joined #hardfought 04:11 Evil Patch Idea: a monster that goes around picking up any objects they find on the floor, and marking them as NOT type-identified for the player. 04:12 yani for some des file 07:06 Heh... someone put a teleporter in the path of a boulder trap. 04:14 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 275138 points, 40840 turns, choked on a black dragon corpse on hdf-eu 04:14 "You kill the centipede! Welcome to experience level 6." 04:14 now I want to feel healthy 04:15 TROPHY: Rex just earned the Iron Star 04:22 Slash'EM Extended updated 04:24 K2: woohoo! thanks! :) the game should be quite a bit easier now, since I realized I had made it too hard 04:24 what did you change exactly to make it easier? 04:26 the player now has better to-hit and damage bonuses from skills, stats and stuff, body armor/shield skill also gives better bonuses, and the "kop station" special roon is less deadly ;) 04:26 *room 04:32 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! bebing completed the Pac-Man challenge. 04:34 so was there an error with to-hit/dmg bonuses before? or did you just beef them up? 04:34 (same ? for armor/shield bits) 04:37 no error, I just beefed them up because I felt the player had no chance (or at least, fighting monsters was annoyingly difficult) 04:39 it used to be nearly impossible to hit AC -20 monsters, and slex has a few monsters whose ACs go down to -40 or something... at least with the new system it's theoretically possible for a well-equipped character to sometimes hit those now :) 04:40 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:46 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 04:53 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 718 points, 2112 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 04:58 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:01 DIED: Grasshopper (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2395 points, 3040 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat on hdf-au 05:05 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1040 points, 2364 turns, killed by a werejackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 05:10 -!- joemaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:42 DIED: larry (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1320 points, 1460 turns, poisoned by a killer bee on hardfought 05:42 shpingrlde: Hmm, thinking of that made me think of putting the triggers to rolling boulder traps in each others' way, to create a chain reaction. 05:42 And then that made me wonder, if it's possible to either get A) an infinite loop, or B) some other kind of weird bug. 05:47 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 678 points, 751 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 06:05 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 06:27 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- stenno is now known as Guest91138 06:38 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "amulet of magical breathing", on T:28134 06:39 -!- firemonkey\splat has joined #hardfought 06:40 ASCENDED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2111270 points, 33307 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wooble/dn36/dumplog/1510599536.dn36.txt 06:42 -!- Schrubber1 has joined #hardfought 06:49 DIED: FIQ (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 58 turns, killed by a falling object on hdf-eu 06:50 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 84 points, 106 turns, killed by a kobold on hdf-eu 06:50 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 130 points, 67 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 06:51 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 92 points, 258 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 06:52 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 57 points, 109 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 06:53 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 34 points, 782 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 06:56 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 156 points, 328 turns, killed by a vampire bat on hdf-eu 06:56 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 192 points, 1104 turns, killed by a magic missile on hdf-eu 06:57 -!- Guest91138 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:58 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 154 points, 19 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 07:00 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 418 points, 190 turns, killed by a fire elemental of Thoth, while praying on hdf-eu 07:00 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 533 points, 1226 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on hardfought 07:02 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 382 points, 355 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 07:03 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 60 points, 124 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu 07:04 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 14 points, 170 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hdf-eu 07:05 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by a djinni on hdf-eu 07:06 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 69 turns, killed by the ghost of Wilmar on hdf-eu 07:06 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 36 turns, killed by kicking something weird on hdf-eu 07:07 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 1 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hdf-eu 07:08 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-eu 07:11 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1704 points, 2344 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hardfought 07:12 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 222 points, 876 turns, choked on a food ration on hdf-eu 07:13 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 48 points, 34 turns, killed by a scroll of earth on hdf-eu 07:15 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 40 points, 217 turns, choked on a lichen corpse on hdf-eu 07:15 so much death 07:16 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 07:17 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8 points, 27 turns, choked on an orange on hdf-eu 07:19 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 31 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide on hdf-eu 07:20 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 16 points, 11 turns, caught himself in his own magical blast on hdf-eu 07:22 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 214 points, 483 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 07:24 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 377 points, 479 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 07:25 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 50 points, 92 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 07:27 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 221 points, 281 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 07:27 aw, no fruitname abuse 07:27 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:28 DIED: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4 points, 10 turns, choked on a deadly slime mold on hdf-eu 07:28 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 07:28 -!- 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the entire dungeon generated too little total food to be able to win, making the game unwinnable since you can't pray for food in Rogue! 07:49 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 4 turns, escaped (with a fake Amulet) on hardfought 07:50 DIED: dgoddard (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3961 points, 4064 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping off a magical draught on hardfought 07:51 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 1386 turns, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 07:52 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 0 points, 35 turns, deliberately plunged into a pit on hardfought 07:55 DIED: FIQ (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 96 points, 157 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 07:56 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 135 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 07:58 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 78 points, 102 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hardfought 07:58 !tell LarienTelrunya yes, hunger rebalance will probably need to include some early game derandomization of food sources. How, I don't know. 07:58 Will do, aosdict! 08:00 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Unlocking_tool#History 08:02 DIED: Raisse (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2555 points, 3626 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hdf-eu 08:06 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 08:07 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 918 points, 1058 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 08:09 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 301 points, 402 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 08:11 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:12 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 910 points, 2323 turns, killed by a pony on hardfought 08:12 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:17 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 08:18 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 08:18 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:18 -!- elenmirie\splat has joined #hardfought 08:20 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3 points, 52 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 08:23 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 26 turns, killed by a thrown potion on hardfought 08:25 DIED: tilia (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2689 points, 4056 turns, killed by an orcish dagger on hardfought 08:26 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 55 points, 133 turns, killed by genocidal confusion on hardfought 08:27 DIED: knaveightt (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 45 points, 86 turns, killed by a master lich on hardfought 08:30 DIED: Raisse (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 105 points, 55 turns, killed by a fox on hdf-eu 08:32 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 150 points, 463 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 08:32 Beholder: messages? 08:32 ais523: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-16 01:53 EST: whoa, that would be quite the nasty trap ;) I'd have to figure out where the function for item selection is if I want to implement that 08:32 ais523: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-16 04:57 EST: NetHack 3.6.0 still has that age-old, very bad advice "Program in disorder - perhaps you'd better #quit." Wouldn't you agree that it's time to finally replace that message by a more sensible one, like "perhaps you'd better save and load"? Many variants already do that :) 08:33 that sounds like a good change 08:33 anyone know of a reliable way to cause an impossible() so that I can test it? (requiring wizmode is OK and probably obligatory) 08:34 DIED: FIQ (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 431 points, 750 turns, caught himself in his own burning oil on hardfought 08:35 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 0 points, 4 turns, killed himself with his bullwhip on hardfought 08:36 huh, FIQ's doing unique deaths? 08:36 DIED: FIQ (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by his own pick-axe on hardfought 08:38 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 74 turns, fell onto a sink on hardfought 08:38 DIED: FIQ (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 08:39 DIED: FIQ (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 69 turns, killed by a potion of holy water on hardfought 08:39 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 08:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 08:41 DIED: khamul (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 21420 points, 9661 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle on hdf-eu 08:41 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 125 points, 227 turns, killed by an iron ball collision on hardfought 08:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 25 turns, killed by a contaminated potion on hardfought 08:43 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 117 points, 192 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 08:44 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 13 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 08:46 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3 points, 13 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 08:50 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 111 points, 205 turns, dragged downstairs by an iron ball on hardfought 08:51 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of displacement", on T:32360 08:51 good wish 08:54 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 T-shirt", on T:32370 08:55 -!- aoei\splat has joined #hardfought 08:57 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1439 points, 1099 turns, crunched in the head by an iron ball on hardfought 08:58 [10fh] Satoshi VIII (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:32411 09:03 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 09:07 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 163 points, 395 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 09:07 . 09:07 LarienTelrunya: Message from aosdict at 2017-11-16 10:58 EST: yes, hunger rebalance will probably need to include some early game derandomization of food sources. How, I don't know. 09:08 ais523: uhh, I dunno, you might just make a local testing version, and hijack some function to call impossible() whenever it's called ;) 09:08 ais523: kind of want to start working on a thief stone implementation, but not sure if the idea is fleshed out enough. 09:08 other than that I don't really know about reliable impossible calls that would occur during normal play; maybe filling a level with monsters and then leaving and entering it again to call a mnexto() error 09:09 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 77 points, 103 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted water moccasin on hardfought 09:12 DIED: AmyBSOD (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 3314 points, 1587 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 09:17 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 09:17 LarienTelrunya: I tried injecting calls with a debugger 09:17 but it's not perfect because the game doesn't expect pline() calls in the middle of the keyboard input code 09:18 btw, I'm planning to say "thanks for … for reminding me" in the commit message 09:18 what name should I use for you? 09:18 AmyBSOD 09:18 :) 09:18 (LarienTelrunya is "Amy Bluescreen" put into an elvish name generator) 09:19 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:19 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1648 points, 1849 turns, committed suicide on hardfought 09:19 OK, vanilla changed 09:19 Neat 09:20 the change will become public in a few hours, IIRC; definitely within 24, I think it's less though 09:20 yay! 09:20 * aosdict zaps a wand of polymorph at vanilla NetHack... now it's chocolate NetHack 09:20 (there's a time delay in case we commit something that really shouldn't be committed by mistake, it gives us a chance to obliterate the commit before it becomes public; we've never actually had to do this) 09:20 aosdict: heh, I actually ate chocolate ice-cream a few hours ago :) 09:20 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 49 points, 252 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hardfought 09:22 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 8 turns, killed by kicking a wall on hardfought 09:22 go team - 09:23 gah, a small mimic death-dropped a tripe ration and I reflexively ate it! 09:23 good thing it wasn't a chameleon imitating a brown monster :P 09:23 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 12 turns, killed by an exploding ring on hardfought 09:24 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 26 turns, killed by a burning potion of oil on hardfought 09:27 EPI: foxes can drop werejackal corpses, or whatever the red werecreature is. And jackals/wolves/etc. can drop corpses of the brown werefoo. 09:28 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:28 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3287 points, 141 turns, killed by a contaminated potion on hardfought 09:29 EPI: any corpse has a 0.1% chance to grant lycanthropy. 09:29 jonadab: what do you think of slex's wereform trap? It makes it so that for the next few thousand or so turns, you'll have polymorphitis, but it only polymorphs you into werecreatures. 09:32 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 414 points, 712 turns, killed by a cue boulder on hardfought 09:36 [12slex] kenanbit (Art Min Mal Neu), 119 points, T:340, killed by a kick in the nuts 09:36 LarienTelrunya: btw, my nasty trap suggestion was based on an actual FIQhack bug 09:36 oh, nice :) 09:36 it's possibly less nasty than some of the others because it doesn't actually make any input impossible, just frustrating 09:37 I'll have to see whether I can make it work as a nasty trap, but for now the dungeon overhaul has higher priority (I already increased slex's dungeon size to 100 and added the 100-level extra dungeon after you claim the amulet :D) 09:38 ASCENDED: elenmirie (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1168938 points, 30457 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/dn36/dumplog/1510765889.dn36.txt 09:38 at some point you're going to get driven insane by your own game and end up ragequitting 09:38 LarienTelrunya: You should make the slex dungeon size conform to the "zero, one, infinity" rule. 09:39 TROPHY: elenmirie just earned the Hat Trick 09:39 heh... ais523: it's possible to play in ironman mode, which means that every normal room becomes a (usually monster-filled) special room, and traversing 200+ dungeon levels in that mode will be *fun*! 09:39 LarienTelrunya: that is not the normal definition of "ironman" 09:39 which is typically a ban on backtracking 09:40 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 937 points, 1136 turns, killed by a giant ant, while praying on hardfought 09:40 yeah; it's "ironman rooms", from Angband 09:40 actual ironman, where you cannot backtrack, would be impossible in nethack for a variety of reasons, one of them being the quest branch, but also other branches 09:40 aren't they normally called "vaults" in Angband? 09:40 well, unless you want to ban all of them in an actual ironman mode 09:41 also FIQ and I had a conversation about this a while ago 09:41 we think it's possible to play the game with no backtracking other than the ascension run 09:41 what about the quest? allow downstairs only while it's incomplete and upstairs only if it is? 09:41 although it relies on an early wish for the Eye of the Aethiopica and a lot of levport scrolls 09:41 hahaha :D 09:42 DIED: ab5ni (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 4071 points, 5024 turns, killed by a large dog called Idefix on hardfought 09:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1802 points, 1302 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hardfought 09:43 let's see, what about this: start off by levporting to dl4 which is the mines branch level, enter mines, levport to dl2 then quest branch, do quest, branchport to mines, levport to dl3 then valley then rodney's, scare him out of the tower, levport to vlad-branch, do vlad's, levport to VS, you now have all 3 invocatio n items and the only levels you've visited twice are the first levels of mines and the quest 09:43 OK, I misremembered the rules slightly 09:43 they were that you could visit each level only twice, /including/ on the asc run 09:44 EPI: Grabbing the amulet causes the dungeon to quake around you, remaking every level above the wizard's tower 09:44 heh, how about "can only use each staircase once until the ascension run" 09:44 LarienTelrunya: that's my usual working definition 09:45 but it interacts oddly with things like holes and levport scrolsl 09:45 hm 09:45 ah 09:45 only have 25 deaths left until I match Wooble 09:45 hmm, what about a more direct sort of ironman? when you step off a map square you can't step back onto it 09:45 ais523: heh, DYWYPI once you enter a dead end :D 09:45 LarienTelrunya: you could pray 09:46 having no legal moves is a major trouble 09:46 the game spawns grues at every square you step on, and they will eat you if you do? 09:46 I was thinking walls popping up behind you 09:46 you could make it holes to make it slightly less evil 09:46 NH4's draw_stepped helps here 09:46 or yes, draw_stepped 09:46 you *can* escape holes 09:46 Radnom traps 09:46 ais523: or pits, fits slex frustration nicely 09:46 *Random 09:46 so you can go on 09:46 it's just really annoying to do so 09:47 if you did that you could make it only apply to normal room and corridor squares 09:47 in slex, your standard ascension kit includes a source of flying so everyone just ignores pits ;) 09:47 so that you could re-enter a level via the stairs if you left it that way 09:47 LarienTelrunya: is that why you made inverse water that only affects people /if/ they're flying? 09:47 yeah, it's a way to make sure flying is not a cure-all 09:47 why is it called crystal water anyway 09:48 I still think that slex should have 'paranoid' traps that only exist if searched for 09:48 How about every tile you've stepped on becomes an extremely nasty trap? 09:49 well, I'm picturing the "crystal water" as especially crystal-clear water that looks a bit like https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/crystal-blue-water-erik-albright.jpg and just imagine the water clinging from the ceiling to be such water 09:49 FIQ: it is only the best water from the purest crystal springs, all yours for the low low price of 10000 zorkmids 09:49 *per bottle 09:49 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 6 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 09:50 Tarmunora: slex has invisible traps, do they qualify? They cannot be made visible at all, no matter how much you search, and see invisible or triggering them or seeing a monster trigger them doesn't help either. 09:50 And slex has a trap that makes all future spawned traps invisible. 09:50 * ais523 imagines a trap that's invisible but doesn't actually do anything 09:50 LarienTelrunya: where is this elvish name translator thing you mentioned earlier? 09:51 heh, wand of striking is crystal this game 09:51 er, glass 09:51 Not quite the same; invisible traps don't punish you for searching, paranoid ones would 09:51 K2: http://chriswetherell.com/Elf/ 09:51 Tarmunora: oooooooh :D 09:52 a trap that makes it so every time you search, a trap comes into existence? 09:52 I think I suggested that one earlier too :P 09:52 -!- K2 is now known as AerandirAnwamane 09:52 I think I really need to spend less time around LarienTelrunya, these slex conversations make my head hurt so much :-D 09:52 somehow 'K2' translates to Aerandir Anwamanë 09:53 :D 09:53 ais523: maybe the headache fades away if you actually play it! just kidding ;) 09:53 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:55 -!- Tarmunora is now known as ElweCulnamo 09:55 -!- AerandirAnwamane is now known as K2 09:55 My usual 'Nora Tarm' translates to Elwë Culnámo 09:55 Neat 09:56 ElweCulnamo: oh, so you're a woman too? 09:56 No, it's just my standard pseudonym 09:56 huh, but Nora is a female name! 09:56 In English it is. 09:56 i call shenanigans on that website 09:56 It's a play on 'Tarmunora', my goto username :P 09:57 it doesnt account for all gender types 09:57 male or female is soooo 20th century 09:57 K2: It accounts for all genders that are relevant for elves. 09:57 At least in Tolkein. 09:57 K2: suggest the flying toaster gender to the maintainer of the name generator! :) 09:57 i didnt see an entry for 'toaster oven' 09:58 -!- ElweCulnamo is now known as Tarmunor-away 09:58 this makes me sad 09:58 How about meat popsicle? 09:58 ^^^ 09:58 splitting up into aos|dict gives me Valandil Telemmaitë 09:58 Actually, if you really wanted to translate your name into Quenya, you'd want to know the etymology of your name first. 10:00 My given name, if you trace it back to its origins, originally meant either "he gives" or "he gave", depending on context. So logically if we were translating my name into Quenya, the result should also mean something like that. 10:00 Hello, Tarmunora bones pile 10:01 you mean ElweCulnamo bones pile 10:02 http://genderfluidsupport.tumblr.com/gender - this needs to be implemented 10:02 LarienTelrunya make it so 10:02 * aosdict is not sure why some tumblr blogs use HTTPS but the majority don't 10:03 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2625 points, 2392 turns, zapped himself with a wand on hardfought 10:03 K2: uhh that looks complicated 10:03 really 10:04 you just said THAT was complicated 10:04 the author of slex 10:04 where is amy and what did you do with her 10:05 DIED: AmyBSOD (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 3115 points, 2471 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 10:05 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 10:05 well apparently she just died to something that she'd squish without a second thought if the variant she's playing were slex 10:05 i want to be able to roll a demifluid borg incantifier wizard hybrid whatever 10:07 I want to propose an alternate definition: "demigender" = any gender that you managed to ascend to demigodhood :D 10:07 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 311 points, 543 turns, squished under a boulder on hardfought 10:07 sorry that already exists 10:07 Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another 10:09 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:09 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 10:12 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 49 points, 100 turns, killed by life drainage on hardfought 10:14 still noone ascend slex? 10:14 do i really have to do it? 10:19 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 278 points, 525 turns, teleported out of the dungeon and fell to his death on hardfought 10:19 nooo, you'll break jonadab's preconception that it's unwinnable by anyone except Amy 10:20 but she apparently made it easier now 10:20 by adding hundreds of more levels? 10:20 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 9 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 10:20 she buffed up players to hit dmg and armor bonuses 10:21 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4 points, 21 turns, killed by a gas cloud on hardfought 10:22 -!- aeoi has joined #hardfought 10:25 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 202 points, 353 turns, killed by handling Sting on hardfought 10:25 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:27 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 196 points, 337 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 10:31 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 281 points, 649 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide on hardfought 10:32 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu), 11803 points, T:4587, killed by an owlbear 10:33 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide on hardfought 10:34 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu), 10 points, T:15, zapped himself with a wand 10:35 Porkman: The world is waiting for someone to prove that slex is not only ascendable, but also streakable. 10:35 Gogogo. 10:39 aosdict: my toon has -26 ac now, i feel like i might actually have a chance without #twoweaponing 10:40 Porkman: you don't have to ascend slex, but I'd like to watch you attempt it :D 10:40 aosdict: the bigger dungeon isn't on the server yet, so everyone who wants to ascend slex should do so while the dungeon is still relatively short, hahaha! 10:41 once the 200+ level version goes live, the game will become sort of like a marathon ;) 10:41 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:42 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 443 points, 913 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 10:49 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 997 points, 1080 turns, fell into a pit of iron spikes on hardfought 10:50 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:51 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 27 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 10:51 [13dnh] porkman (Hea Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1552 10:52 DIED: knaveightt (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1418 points, 2924 turns, poisoned by a centipede on hardfought 10:56 -!- deadnoob has joined #hardfought 11:03 K2: idea: create a deathrobin account on hardfought, who can compete in tournaments (but can't be in any clans) for unique deaths. 11:04 heh 11:05 I'd be interested in that, because I don't really want to spend time on unique deaths myself but it'd be nice to contribute a couple 11:06 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:15 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1617 points, 1686 turns, killed by an exploding wand on hardfought 11:21 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:26 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide on hardfought 11:27 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 102 points, 272 turns, killed by a system shock on hardfought 11:28 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 11:28 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 11 turns, killed by a water elemental on hardfought 11:30 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 81 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hardfought 11:32 DIED: FIQ (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 120 points, 313 turns, fell into a pit on hardfought 11:32 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 11:32 oh, are there pits on hardfought? perhaps we should tell k2 so he can fill them 11:33 save the pits 11:33 march for pits' rights 11:33 The pits must be saved! We will not give up on the pits! We will not capitulate! 11:34 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 11:34 lol 11:34 Have you no pity? 11:35 where did the bot go 11:35 It contracted botulism. 11:36