00:03 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1310 points, 2036 turns, killed by a wererat on hdf-eu 00:03 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 00:07 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 190 points, 774 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 00:08 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ /dev/null/nethack tribute tournament has officially started! - https://www.hardfought.org/devnull 00:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v NotTheOracle\dnt] by K2 00:09 ok that should stop the last round of zapm startscum spam. 00:13 thanks! 00:19 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1938 points, 2402 turns, killed by a fire ant on altorg 00:19 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 00:19 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 00:25 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Kontroller accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 00:29 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 25091 points, 10026 turns, killed by a warg on hdf-eu 00:31 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3944 points, 9413 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 00:40 does putting your items in a bag of holding "stack 'em up" if they're the same BUC and everything? 00:40 or do you have to floor-drop / #adjust them 00:43 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:45 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Kontroller accepted the Joust challenge. 00:53 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 895 points, 2124 turns, killed by a werejackal on altorg 00:57 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:58 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1423 points, 2284 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 00:59 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Luxidream completed the ZAPM challenge. 00:59 ZAPM: Luxidream the Sysadmin Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [38020 points] 01:02 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 404 points, 224 turns, killed by a gas cloud on hdf-eu 01:06 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide on hdf-eu 01:06 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1823 points, 1993 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 01:07 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 58 points, 138 turns, killed by the ghost of Kenny on hdf-eu 01:11 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1795 points, 664 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 01:11 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 92 points, 129 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 01:12 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 14663 points, 11195 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse on hdf-eu 01:21 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 567 points, 969 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 01:24 QUIT: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2174 points, 1535 turns, quit on hdf-eu 01:28 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:30 QUIT: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1745 points, 540 turns, quit on hdf-eu 01:32 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1039 points, 1141 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 01:39 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:40 -!- stenno is now known as Guest47184 01:43 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 0 points, 1 turns, killed by a bolt of fire on hdf-eu 01:49 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 340 points, 433 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu 01:50 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 3628 points, 3656 turns, killed by a jaguar on hdf-eu 02:16 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 24862 points, 9206 turns, choked on a tin of spinach on hdf-eu 02:22 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 02:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 02:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:27 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 4338 points, 787 turns, killed by a small mimic, while praying on hdf-eu 02:35 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 02:41 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 8569 points, 6551 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 02:45 -!- Guest47184 has quit [Changing host] 02:45 -!- Guest47184 has joined #hardfought 02:45 -!- Guest47184 is now known as stenno 02:47 DIED: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8954 points, 1250 turns, killed by an invisible tengu on hdf-eu 02:54 DIED: elenmirie (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 890 points, 1374 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt on hdf-eu 03:01 -!- Webmant9 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 759 points, 1993 turns, killed by a fog cloud, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 03:21 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1569 points, 3203 turns, killed by a cave spider, while taking off clothes on hdf-eu 03:28 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:38 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 03:39 balls. I just polypiled my dragonscale shield by accident 03:53 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 03:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 03:55 gawd 03:59 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:39364 04:00 i only wished 3 artis... why is it not giving me a 4th after 7 wishes 04:13 DIED: Mandevil (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 34099 points, 9909 turns, killed by a dwarf mummy on hdf-eu 04:46 DIED: Tangles (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2998 points, 4758 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-au 04:51 DIED: noims (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1138 points, 1034 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 04:52 -!- nht has quit [Quit: nht] 04:54 DIED: Tangles (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 307 points, 403 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-au 04:55 DIED: Tangles (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 42 points, 99 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-au 04:58 DIED: Tangles (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 69 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-au 04:59 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 05:03 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 05:12 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Tariru accepted the Joust challenge. 05:16 DIED: Tangles (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 675 points, 1330 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 05:21 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 05:24 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 05:27 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Tariru completed the Joust challenge. 05:33 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 44322 points, 21098 turns, killed by a captain on hdf-eu 05:42 aosdict: "Reduce level of turn undead to 2 or 3." FIQHack and 3.6.1 does this 05:50 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52 DIED: davez (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 9992 points, 6900 turns, killed by a mumak on hdf-eu 05:53 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 102 points, 960 turns, killed by a goblin on hdf-eu 05:54 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 05:57 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:43903 06:01 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:44353 06:11 DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1485 points, 2122 turns, killed by a watchman on hardfought 06:11 DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 0 points, 36 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 06:11 [08un] Delraven (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 11374 points, T:7502, killed by a giant spider 06:12 DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 0 points, 26 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 06:22 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1667 points, 1661 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 06:25 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Delraven accepted the Joust challenge. 06:33 -!- dave__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:35 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 06:35 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1023 points, 1113 turns, killed by a cave spider on hdf-eu 06:37 DIED: Delraven (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 293 points, 820 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 06:38 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 06:42 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 10 points, 126 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hdf-eu 06:45 DIED: davez (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 3011 points, 2147 turns, killed by a killer bee on hdf-eu 06:45 ASCENDED: Tariru (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1413062 points, 27229 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1510424573.dn36.txt 06:45 FIQ: 3.6.1 did spell changes?? 06:46 TROPHY: Tariru just earned the Double Top (with bells on!) 06:46 in any case, yes, it's probably level 6 because of D&D, and whatever justifies it being that high doesn't work in NetHack? 06:47 and it still appears to be level 6 in my copy... and I don't see any recent commits that would have done that 06:49 DIED: Delraven (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 241 points, 375 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 06:50 DIED: jmcunx (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 369 points, 2930 turns, killed by a bat on hardfought 06:57 aosdict: what 06:57 DIED: davez (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1662 points, 2162 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 06:57 1: yes 06:57 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Delraven accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 06:57 2: that YANI refers to #turn 06:57 ohhh wait I completely misunderstood 06:57 sorry 06:58 you mean the "turn undead" spellbook? 06:59 I meant #turn , the YANI is referencing the spell 07:04 DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 10660 points, 6834 turns, killed by a warhorse on hardfought 07:05 what does #turn have to do with spell levels 07:05 (it has XL cutoffs, but I don't think those changed) 07:09 [13dnh] rikersan (Brd Hlf Mal Neu), 1227 points, T:1865, killed by a dwarf 07:10 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:39473 07:12 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:12 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 07:28 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 5268 points, 7421 turns, killed by a gargoyle on hdf-eu 07:30 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 07:35 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:35 [10fh] Satoshi II (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 41557 points, T:5276, killed by a Woodland-elf 07:38 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 07:38 @d?kosktheithty 07:38 well... crap 07:38 I just attacked the Arch Priest with Stormbringer by mistake 07:38 :( 07:39 before or after quest 07:39 got kicked out of the quest. not a problem since I finished the quest, but my stash was there 07:39 aw 07:39 wish for the eye and branchport? 07:39 good, I didn't leave the Bell there 07:39 am chaotic 07:39 :/ 07:39 permanently convert your alignment and wish for it? :P 07:39 no neutral altars in the dungeon even if I wanted to convert 07:39 :( 07:40 what'd you lose? 07:40 lots of potions, spellbook library, etc 07:40 scrolls 07:40 gems 07:40 what I usually stock up on for a polypile fest 07:41 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 783 points, 2296 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 07:42 -!- rikersan has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:44 [10fh] Satoshi III (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 28832 points, T:831, killed by an ogre 07:47 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2249 points, 1729 turns, killed by a werejackal on hdf-eu 07:50 !who 07:50 Tarmunora: aosdict [15dn36] Delraven [15dn36] tav [15dn36] larry [15dn36] dgoddard [15dn36] Webmant [15dn36] porkman [13dnh] Tarmunora [13dnh] puck [10fh] 07:51 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:39924 07:56 [10fh] Satoshi IV (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 29966 points, T:925, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 08:08 DIED: Delraven (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 1954 points, 3113 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 08:10 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 08:11 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 08:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 08:13 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof tiny +3 silver orcish dagger", on T:48898 08:22 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:40508 08:25 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:40789 08:28 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 08:32 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) was given the Sceptre of Lolth, on T:41305 08:37 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1643 points, 3039 turns, killed by a werejackal on hdf-eu 08:38 [12slex] rikersan (For Ang Mal Cha) shouted "amy, my terminal is crashing now, this is a sign that i need to stop playing now", on T:2882 08:39 [12slex] rikersan (For Ang Mal Cha) shouted "will resume later, and irc is still being weird", on T:2882 08:44 -!- Haudegen has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:46 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! oh6 accepted the Pool challenge. 08:47 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:41983 08:47 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:42004 08:50 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:42072 08:51 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:42160 08:52 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:42191 08:53 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Garland, on T:42232 08:53 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Chaos, on T:42243 08:59 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 08:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 08:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 08:59 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 09:03 Beholder: messages? 09:03 ais523: Message from jonadab at 2017-11-11 10:30 EST: feature request for libuncursed2: 24-bit and 8-bit color support. 09:03 ais523: Message from jonadab at 2017-11-11 10:36 EST: feature request for libuncursed2: 24-bit and 8-bit color support. 09:05 !tell jonadab huh, fun coincidence that you sent that then; I've been working on libuncursed2 over the past few days, mostly pre-emptive documentation as I sort out how everything works (there's not much implemented but I've got quite some way through documenting it), 24-bit and 8-bit color is already documented 09:05 Will do, ais523! 09:06 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! eitwinston completed the Grue challenge. 09:28 !tell K2 I've pushed some dnethack bugfixes :) 09:28 Will do, Chris_ANG! 09:28 ok! 09:28 K2: Message from Chris_ANG at 2017-11-12 12:28 EST: I've pushed some dnethack bugfixes :) 09:29 Chris_ANG is that paniclog helping out at all? 09:30 dNetHack updated 09:30 So far it hasn't gotten anything too entertaining. I see that I continue to kill monsters that are already dead. 09:31 Refresing it now, I also see that there's something up with potions and timeouts. 09:32 i've made the paniclog available for slex also... i should probably make it publically available for all nh3 variants 09:34 why not NH4 variants too? are they leaking private information in the paniclog or something? 09:38 ais523 i couldnt recall if nh4 based variants produced a paniclog 09:38 if they do i'll add them to the list 09:38 they do, although I think they might have to panic at least once 09:38 a quick #panic in wizmode should sort that out though 09:39 ah i see it 09:39 for ages NH4 was seeding its RNG incorrectly because I forgot to put /dev/random inside the chroot, that was being logged in the paniclog but I forgot to check it 09:39 nice 09:40 hrm... 09:40 !players 09:40 K2: Rx [07nd] aosdict [15dn36] hothraxxa [15dn36] dgoddard [15dn36] Luxidream [15dn36] bleeko [15dn36] Webmant [15dn36] porkman [13dnh] Tarmunora [13dnh] puck [10fh] 09:40 !whereis puck 09:40 K2: puck [10fh]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:6111 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 09:40 !whereis Graylight 09:40 K2: Graylight [10fh]: (Bar Hum Mal Neu) T:281 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 09:40 dammit 09:42 FIQ: FIQhack is not removing .whereis files for players who are not playing 09:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:43 !whereis JuiceboxHero 09:43 K2: JuiceboxHero [114k]: (Kni Hum Mal Law) T:30 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 09:44 jonadab: same for Fourk, whereis files not being removed when player exits game 09:48 ok, publiv panic logs setup for nh4, fourk and fiqhack 09:48 *public 09:48 https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/nethack4/paniclog 09:48 -!- khoR_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 09:49 https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/4k/paniclog 09:49 https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/fh/paniclog 09:51 ASCENDED: Webmant (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 2833452 points, 57029 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/Webmant/dn36/dumplog/1510377818.dn36.txt 09:51 congrats Webmant! 09:52 DIED: hothraxxa (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 4060 points, 2414 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 09:52 TROPHY: Webmant now holds the Best Behaved Ascension and Highest Scored Monk 09:52 TROPHY: OrderOfTheCockatrice now holds the Best In Show 09:52 TROPHY: Webmant just earned the Birdie 09:55 huh, the clan competition is close enough that it can change lead on Nov 12? that's interesting to see 09:57 Looks like a pretty tight race at the top 10:01 :) 10:01 Its fun that way 10:02 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:02 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 10:02 -!- raisse is now known as theRaisse 10:02 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse\splat 10:02 agreed 10:02 [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2010 points, T:4150, killed by a gold golem 10:03 i need to get my ass in gear and get some ascensions 10:03 I finally started my first game yesterday 10:03 heh and i thought i was late to the game 10:03 This month is a really busy month for me unfortunately 10:03 same 10:04 i *should* be getting some things done right now but i am procastinating 10:04 Moving soon and going on a two-week vacation 10:04 Had a blast playing yesterday though, haven't played nethack in a while 10:04 moving and a vaca... whew 10:05 Vacation starts Dec 3 but I have a lot of stuff to figure out before then 10:05 @K2 │ FIQ: FIQhack is not removing .whereis files for players who are not playing 10:05 It is set up the same way as whatever NH3 variant I looked at 10:05 SO there is a playing=0 field 10:05 -!- hpardis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:06 Also, you should not rely on the absence of it anyway -- what if there is an unclean exit? 10:06 our big vacation will be next april - taking mini me to disneyworld 10:06 ais523: yep, pretty interesting! 10:06 lol we're going in april too (sevilla) 10:06 FIQ: dgl is set to unlink from any existing whereis files. but they still remain hence I can do this: 10:07 !whereis Graylight 10:07 K2: Graylight [10fh]: (Bar Hum Mal Neu) T:281 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 10:07 K2: Cool, I'm actually moving to Orlando 10:07 Graylight isnt playing 10:07 greqrg what's taking you there? and are you already in Florida or is this a big move? 10:07 K2: well my point was 10:08 1: I used the same setup as unnethack does (that's what I based my stuff on), so if fiqhack is wrong, so is unnethack 10:08 2: What if FIQHack crashes? 10:09 fiqhack, 4k and dnethack aren't exactly famous for being rock solid 10:09 -!- aoei is now known as aoei\splat 10:09 looks as if unnethack is wrong then heh 10:09 i see three whereis files under its /whereis folder 10:09 K2: I could make it delete files instead 10:09 K2: New work opportunity, helping set up a new department at my company's new office there. I live near West Palm Beach now so it's pretty close already (~2 hours) 10:09 But that doesn't solve the crash problem 10:10 greqrg nice. fyi, i'm going to be in florida on business in about 2 weeks 10:10 delray 10:10 Cool, Delray is nice 10:11 FIQ: however you want to have the game handle whereis, its all good. just wanted to let ya know 10:12 greqrg: i've never been to delray. its where the execs for the new company i work for have their offices 10:12 ais523: d037753b7dcf2b6756c08e27445fc74b58e7f99d (FIQHack) has a problem in that it will auto-darken previous messages (that's how it deals with --More--). How can I avoid this while still dismissing --More-- etc automatically? 10:12 K2: Ok. I just want to be consistent 10:12 in fact its been years since i've been to florida at all 10:13 FIQ: if i recall, other games that use whereis such as sporkhack and nethack 3.4.3 kill the file for that player once they end their game 10:13 FIQ: multiprocess play as that problem too 10:13 K2: Hmm. Ok. 10:13 I never did find a fix 10:13 K2: There are a lot of nice restaurants and bars on Atlantic Ave east of I-95 10:13 Beaches are nice too 10:13 I assume there is one but I don't know what it is 10:14 greqrg good to know. i will definitely take advantage. I have snow here on the ground where i live ;) 10:15 ais523: Speaking of message buffer, khoR encountered a problem in FIQHack that I think exist in nethack4 too (not sure if it does in the pre-channelization msgbuffer handling). If an "What do you want o apply? [whatever]" line or similar is excessively long, it will force --More-- twice 10:15 Any idea why this happens? 10:16 (This is for single-line message buffer) 10:16 FIQ: most unexpected --More--s are to stop the message getting covered up by a menu 10:16 it can't get long enough otherwise 10:16 so you can see it before the menu is there 10:16 K2 Weather is pretty nice here right now, it's been in the 70s. Should be great when you're here 10:16 I'm not sure if that case is applying here 10:17 and if it is, whether it's correct or incorrect to do so 10:17 I'm headed to Seattle so I'm doing the opposite lol 10:17 Also I wanted to ask, do you know if the window handling has a "display this menu in replaymode too"? 10:17 This is basically never a good idea, but enlightenment is a major exception 10:18 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Summer Intern Killed by kicking a door in the space base at depth 2. [1380 points] 10:19 I think this is a similar case as to why you wanted to defer "name this item" to the #name menu 10:19 Maybe the enlightenment stuff can be improved similarly, somhow 10:21 FIQ: I don't think there's anything like that at the moment 10:23 DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 0 points, 11 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 10:24 we're about to reach 5000 games played 10:24 yay! 10:25 ais523: Is this going too far btw? Technically omitting such info violates the Interhack policy, but I'm not sure if I like it: http://sprunge.us/RiVf 10:26 there's no way to get the probabilities known for sure without a really powerful AI 10:26 e.g. /oTele can generate in monster inventory, /oCancel can't (at least in vanilla) 10:26 the base price thing can be made less ridiculous via the price ID overhaul I was planning for NH4 10:26 ais523: OK, so ignoring that field 10:26 Do you think it is a good idea or not? 10:27 I think something like that can work but it may be worth changing the game mechanics to make it less spoilery 10:27 anyway, I need to go; maybe I can talk more about this later 10:27 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 10:27 see you 10:30 My monk found Grayswandir in a shop on 8th level. What do I do with that? 10:32 Too bad it wasn't gifted. Are you even lawful dave__ ? 10:32 I am 10:32 chaotic 10:32 :-) 10:33 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:35 You might be able to unrestrict saber through crowning, I'm not 100% how that works for monks though 10:36 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! aoei accepted the Pool challenge. 10:36 I presume you'd have to know Restore Ability and possibly have been gifted Stormbringer, if it's possible at all 10:36 Stormbringer is a broadsword, not a sabre 10:36 Oh, you could just get werebane as a gift 10:36 Almost forgot about that 10:37 hmm, werebane seems ok 10:37 dave__: Stormbringer is the default crowning gift for chaotics 10:37 If you already have it, most roles will have their current weapon improved and urnestricted instead 10:37 greqrg: can't get werebane as a gift if not lawful 10:37 Well, I already got Sting :-) 10:38 isn't werebane non-aligned? 10:38 you can't get Grayswandir but I've had tourists with werebane 10:38 hm, was sure it was lawful 10:39 wiki says unaligned 10:39 dave__: The intention isn't to actually use werebane, it's to unrestrict saber by receiving it as a gift so you can reasonably use Grayswandir and wreak havoc all the way to demi-godhood 10:39 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 344801 points, 31929 turns, killed by a vampire bat on hardfought 10:40 aosdict: Yeah I was going off the assumption it was unaligned, but I'm pretty forgetful with that stuff 10:40 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 10:41 greqrg: I understand 10:41 TROPHY: dgoddard just earned the Copper Star 10:42 is the unskilled penalty even that much of an obstacle? 10:43 yes 10:43 well, perhaps not with grayswandir 10:43 um 10:43 greqrg: 10:43 because that does double damage to everythng afaik 10:43 you know that lategame your to-hit is crazy enough that it doesn't matter, right 10:45 is there a *reason* grays is by far the best weapon in the game? 10:45 like, what exactly was the motive behind designing it 10:45 That's fair, I'm in the habit of wanting to have basic skill I guess. Although I assume he'll be a monk with body armor which makes it matter a little more than most roles 10:45 it's only what, -4 to-hit though? 10:46 yeah 10:47 it's as if you hit while 4 levels lower than you actually are 10:47 that is how much it matters 10:47 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Q/A Tester Quit in the space base at depth 4. [5650 points] 10:47 Right, I suppose that's easily overcome 10:51 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! aoei completed the Pool challenge. 11:03 I got Werebane from sacrifice :-) 11:05 dave__: Nice 11:12 [10fh] Satoshi V (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 53353 points, T:7076, killed by a priest of Amaterasu Omikami 11:16 "The potion of sleeping slips as the bugbear throws it!" what? 11:18 it's cursed? 11:22 or he's wearing cursed gloves? 11:22 I just threw 20 cursed potions in wizmode and never had a slip 11:24 Happens occasionally with greased potions 11:25 who would grease a potion 11:26 Some people get a little grease-happy when they find a can with 50+ charges 11:27 Does it protect them from dilution from falling in water? 11:28 Not noticing anything for cursed gloves 11:28 is the bugbear wearing fumbling armor? 11:32 -!- Tarmunora_ has joined #hardfought 11:36 -!- Tarmunora has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:40 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 11:42 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 510 points, 994 turns, killed by a large kobold on hdf-eu 11:42 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! oh6 completed the Pool challenge. 11:48 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 304 points, 514 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 11:49 [10fh] Satoshi VI (puck) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 38754 points, T:2497, killed by a giant mimic 11:50 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 556 points, 1464 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 11:53 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 11:55 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56 -!- aoei\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:57 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1144 points, 603 turns, killed by a giant rat on hdf-eu 12:03 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 12:07 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 448 points, 822 turns, killed by a gecko on hdf-eu 12:08 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Delraven completed the Pool challenge. 12:09 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 240 points, 1046 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 12:11 eep didn't think the gecko would kill me before I killed it 12:18 -!- Haudegen has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:19 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 488 points, 1168 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 12:20 rip 12:25 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1409288 points, 31914 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1510442389.dn36.txt 12:26 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 12:32 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 12:32 SUP 12:36 o7 12:39 DIED: davez (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 84094 points, 12745 turns, killed by a rock troll on hdf-eu 12:41 DIED: Eleven (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 328 points, 979 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 12:46 DIED: buffy (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 10662 points, 11112 turns, killed by a Green-elf on altorg 12:49 ZAPM: jonathanhanes the Q/A Tester Quit in the space base at depth 4. [5650 points] 12:55 DIED: davez (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1525 points, 1528 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 13:04 [12slex] rikersan (For Ang Mal Cha), 17473 points, T:3393, killed by a monster (rabid bull), while flinching 13:05 Never flinch in a bull-fight 13:15 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1763 points, 1779 turns, killed by a hill orc on hdf-eu 13:17 DIED: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 381 points, 471 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 13:17 -!- Tariru_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:22 DIED: aoei (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 6140 points, 4512 turns, killed by a little dog, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 13:22 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:52672 13:23 [13dnh] porkman (Pri Inc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:52681 13:26 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 13:27 what race is Inc? 13:27 incantifier 13:27 dnethack 13:27 what means dnethack? 13:27 its a variant 13:28 man how many variants are there now 13:28 dnethack is new to me 13:28 its really cool 13:28 its the best of them imo 13:28 :o 13:28 better than SLASH'EM? 13:29 IMHO slex is the best variant :P 13:29 i don't think much of slashem.. 13:29 well, SLASH'EM is pretty bad 13:30 I used to play slashem 13:30 I like DNH more 13:30 unnethack is pretty cool 13:30 dnethack is better than unnethack 13:30 UN is too nerfy 13:30 but its in the same style 13:30 and then there's that one ais did 13:30 ais did acehack and then nethack4 13:30 but now he's part of the devteam 13:30 ah right 13:30 (of vanilla devteam) 13:30 yeah i figured you meant that 13:31 all the old variant devs are now member of vanilla devteam 13:31 so he made sufficiently vanilla variants that the vanilla devteam were like ok, let's get this guy on board 13:31 ais, bhaak, lorimer, paxed 13:31 well 13:31 it was a bit different 13:31 oh all of them 13:31 sporkhack was interesting as well 13:32 unnethack was better than sporkhack, and now dnethack is better than un 13:32 sporkhack was super hard 13:32 yeah 13:33 stenno: lorimer didn't join the devteam afaik... nor did sgrunt, nor did Chris_ANG 13:33 pretty sure that lorimer did 13:33 and grunt switched to dcss devteam 13:33 and dnethack was too new back then? 13:34 idk how chris was connected to the other variant devs 13:34 why i said 'old variant devs' 13:39 apparently paxed, bhaak and ais523 only have a handful of ascensions between them 13:39 !lastasc Chris_ANG 13:39 Tarmunora_: No last ascension for Chris_ANG 13:39 and these folks are now coding the game? :P 13:39 !lastgame Chris_ANG 13:39 Tarmunora_: No last game for Chris_ANG 13:39 Huh 13:40 what do they know ':D 13:40 paxed developed what _could_ be considered the most successful variant, NAO 13:40 ok I'll grant paxed some clout for that 13:40 DIED: hothraxxa (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2435 points, 4143 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 13:48 aoei: most variant devs seem not to be big into playing all that much 13:55 DIED: TheSausageMaster (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1908 points, 2342 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 13:58 DIED: bleeko (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 2918 points, 4703 turns, killed by an iron piercer on hardfought 13:59 aosdict, yeah, I guess it's fine, they have plenty of play-testers... 14:01 [13dnh] Tarmunora (Ndr-Nob Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:45219 14:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03 its somewhat odd, that the more involved you become with developing or hosting the game you love, the less you play it 14:04 its the same when you have a 40 hr/wk programming job 14:04