00:00 no, I didn't even know it was part of the compile process :( 00:00 *know what 00:02 okay 00:02 does 3.6 have anything like NH4 where you can slide your cursor (by keyboard or mouse) across multiple items to quickly farlook them all? 00:03 is there anywhere else i need to insert my new armor piece besides objects.c and do_wear.c? 00:06 can you post a screenshot of your attempt to compile? 00:07 rip i can't 00:07 what would you have looked for 00:08 well, an error message pointing to one of the files you have edited (objects.c or do_name.c) 00:08 well there isn't one b/c this mystery error was the only one returned 00:09 there were a bunch of warnings though 00:09 shpingrlde: 3.6.1 does 00:09 not sure if 3.6.0 does 00:09 press / 00:09 see if you get an option for it 00:10 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:17 LarienTelrunya: welp i've gtg for the night, so if you come up with something, i'd really appreciate it if you tell me. thanks for your help tonight, too 00:17 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:23 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:24 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 00:26 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:28 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Client Quit] 00:28 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 00:29 thanks FIQ , / O is awesome 00:44 !tell K2 pushed a fix with eggs 00:44 Will do, FIQ! 00:44 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:48 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 00:50 !tell K2 pushed minor fixes 00:50 Will do, FIQ! 00:50 oops, didn't intend to do that twice 00:50 -!- ninetale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:50 brainfart 00:50 oh well 00:58 Why can a mind flayer instadeath not be recovered via life saving? It just eats your brain, but if you're being *disintegrated*, your entire body is gone (including the brain), shouldn't that also be a permanent, not-lifesave-able instadeath then? 01:02 Evil Patch idea: acid pits. Like regular pits, but deal severe acid damage each turn and can quickly kill you unless you have acid resistance, plus it corrodes your entire inventory. 01:08 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 01:15 YANI for dnethack: implement super glue from ZAPM, and make it the elder priest's kryptonite by allowing the player to glue his tentacles together, preventing him from attacking with them. 01:15 Would also work on mind flayers and anything else that has tentacles, of course. 01:45 ASCENDED: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2011430 points, 42450 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/dn36/dumplog/1509957446.dn36.txt 01:46 TROPHY: Raisse just earned the Dilithium Star 01:50 [10fh] Eir IV (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law), 77520 points, T:23188, petrified by catching the eye of Medusa 01:51 !lastgame 01:51 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-07%2009%3A50%3A07%2C%20Eir%20IV-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 01:51 eep did you forget to put your towel on? 01:52 raisse\splat: it's puck1 01:52 er, puck isn't here 01:52 in #NetHack 01:52 yes, I was just talking to them over there, too 01:52 still giddy with ascending :-) 01:52 heh 01:52 raisse\splat: gz! 01:53 thanks! 01:53 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 01:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 01:53 had to put on a ring of conflict so I could wade through the ants 01:54 heh 01:55 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56 LarienTelrunya, would the ZAPM glue work on Harvey Weinstein? 01:56 nah, too slimy 01:57 hmmm, use some gaffer/cloth tape then? That stuff is meant to work underwater 01:57 well, be waterproof maybe not work underwater. But not necessarily slime-proof 01:59 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 02:13 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21 DIED: Rex (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 152867 points, 31069 turns, drowned in a pool of water by a python on hdf-eu 02:22 TROPHY: Rex now holds the Highest Scored Caveman 02:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 289 points, 460 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 02:25 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:38 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 02:39 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 02:42 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:42 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie\splat 02:42 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:44 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:49 omg the bot spammed all the trophies. 02:50 sorry :( 03:09 Bad bot! 03:15 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 03:16 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [Client Quit] 03:25 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 22 points, 249 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 03:33 -!- shpingrlde has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 03:33 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:49 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2660 points, 3334 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hardfought 04:09 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 04:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 04:15 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 843 points, 2666 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 04:22 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1578 points, 1614 turns, killed by an orc zombie on hdf-eu 04:25 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Rex accepted the Joust challenge. 04:27 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:28 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 04:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 04:32 -!- nht has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 176 points, 200 turns, killed by a jackal, while unconscious from rotten food on hdf-eu 04:39 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 136 points, 160 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 04:53 DIED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 32136 points, 12572 turns, killed by sitting on an iron spike on hardfought 04:55 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 742 points, 1923 turns, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 04:55 TROPHY: wooble just earned the Lead Star 04:56 DIED: wooble (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 29 points, 10 turns, killed by a potion of holy water on hardfought 04:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2686 points, 6237 turns, killed by a rock piercer on hdf-eu 05:03 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 509 points, 787 turns, shot herself with a death ray on hardfought 05:04 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 982 points, 1630 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 05:04 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 05:04 YASI for ZAPM: when you are "pregnant" with a chestburster alien, and you are lawful, killing it in any way counts as murder. That would require alignments to exist in ZAPM, though. Alternate YASI: implement chestburster aliens in NetHack, and lawfuls get dinged for murder if they kill one. 05:05 [07nd] Mischling (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 647 points, T:946, killed by a dagger 05:06 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:09 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 756 points, 968 turns, killed by a cave spider on hardfought 05:18 wow 05:20 DIED: Eleven (Mon-Hum-Fem-Cha), 3497 points, 5058 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 05:20 HEAD är nu på f60000077 Fix: Medusa meets Medusa's gaze 05:20 nice commit hash 05:21 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 600 points, 318 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 05:22 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 61 turns, killed by axing a hard object on hardfought 05:23 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1072 points, 1826 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 05:25 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 529 points, 458 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 05:26 DIED: Rex (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 333 points, 504 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 05:26 DIED: wooble (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 31 points, 87 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 05:28 [07nd] Mischling (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:3443 05:28 DIED: wooble (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 181 points, 131 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 05:29 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1056 points, 4016 turns, poisoned by a centipede on hdf-eu 05:29 [10fh] Eir V (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law), 33368 points, T:2273, killed by a valkyrie called "Eir" 05:29 !tell StatueSurfer I'd really recommend you use Linux in some way to try compiling NetHack. Whether that's Windows Subsystem for Linux, or a VM, or whatever. As you can see, most people can't help you with Windows-specific errors. 05:29 Will do, aosdict! 05:30 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 05:33 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 82 points, 309 turns, killed by a burning scroll on hardfought 05:34 !lastgame 05:34 FIQ: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/puck/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-07%2013%3A28%3A58%2C%20Eir%20V-Val-Hum-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt 05:35 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 67 points, 55 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 05:40 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 3320 points, 5005 turns, killed by a winter wolf cub, while praying on hdf-eu 05:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 05:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 05:43 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 534 points, 1407 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 05:44 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 610 points, 904 turns, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 05:45 DIED: Rex (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 197 points, 381 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 05:46 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 191 points, 302 turns, killed by an incubus on hardfought 05:50 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 758 points, 905 turns, killed by a snake, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 05:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 05:52 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 468 points, 1778 turns, killed by an incubus on hardfought 05:55 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Grue challenge. 05:56 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mischling accepted the Pool challenge. 06:22 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 06:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 694 points, 1378 turns, killed by an imp on hdf-eu 06:29 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 644 points, 588 turns, killed by a hobgoblin on hdf-eu 06:35 DIED: Mischling (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 6032 points, 6255 turns, killed by a gremlin on hardfought 06:39 ASCENDED: Mandevil (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2356968 points, 34435 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mandevil/dn36/dumplog/1509735305.dn36.txt 06:39 \o/ 06:39 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-07 03:44 EST: pushed a fix with eggs 06:39 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-07 03:50 EST: pushed minor fixes 06:40 TROPHY: Mandevil now holds the Highest Scored Rogue 06:40 TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Dilithium Star 06:45 DIED: Rex (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 3128 points, 1363 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 06:45 grats Mandevil\splat! 06:45 Grasshopper: Thanks. 06:45 Grasshopper: Aren't you about to ascend as well? 06:47 Mandevil\splat, yes when I get around to it! 06:48 is there a "most ascensions in 24 hours" trophy? if so we'll probably have it if Grasshopper ascends today as well 06:53 DIED: Rex (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 8 points, 77 turns, killed by a magical explosion on hdf-eu 06:53 -!- Sluggoman has quit [] 06:57 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 6987 points, 7503 turns, killed by a psychic blast on hardfought 06:57 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4041 points, 6467 turns, killed by a giant bat on hardfought 06:58 DIED: zaga (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1902 points, 1630 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 06:59 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 929 points, 1843 turns, killed by a dagger on hdf-eu 07:01 -!- rikersan has joined #hardfought 07:03 [13dnh] rikersan (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 69 points, T:145, killed by a water moccasin 07:05 [13dnh] rikersan (Bin Swn Fem Non), 68 points, T:283, killed by a newt 07:06 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3798 points, 4047 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 07:10 DIED: Rex (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1325 points, 1280 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 07:10 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 07:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 07:11 [13dnh] rikersan (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:724 07:13 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:16 YANI: You can pacify (but not tame) most d and f monsters by throwing appropriate food at them. 07:17 oh like tigers and jackals 07:17 I was about to say "but you already can" 07:21 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 07:22 DIED: zaga (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 824 points, 1092 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 07:25 [13dnh] rikersan (Bin Inc Mal Non), 10450 points, T:2522, killed by a giant spider 07:25 I really need to stop read-id'ing scrolls 07:27 NetHack isn't Brogue. There are lots of ways to identify items _before_ you use them. 07:28 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:30 hmm, 2 unidentified lamps... 07:31 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 07:33 aaaarch 07:33 are they different kinds? 07:33 my autopickup exceptions apparently don't match "cursed stone called prob load" 07:34 raisse\splat: no 07:35 and this priest is one who DIDN'T start with +oRC 07:36 if I had that spell, I could make sure the exceptions were working properly :) 07:39 oh hello, bones for the first time in devnull 07:40 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1558 points, 600 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying on hdf-eu 07:40 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1434 points, 2035 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 07:49 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2904 points, 2648 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 07:50 aosdict: but why would you autopickup stones in first place 07:50 likely autopickup types 07:50 for gems 07:50 mhm 07:50 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3842 points, 2225 turns, killed by a dingo on hardfought 07:51 and a lot of gems are "foo stone 07:51 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1388 points, 1023 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 07:51 " 07:52 "Matty falls into a pit!" 07:52 Matty is a trapper. They are basically a huge carpet on the floor. How does that fall into a pit? 07:53 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 07:53 it's a big pit 07:54 DIED: wooble (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 0 points, 20 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony on hardfought 08:07 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 08:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 08:07 DIED: aosdict (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 692 points, 1934 turns, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 08:07 I feel like there's been a lot more deaths to team e during the tourney than unusual 08:08 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2715 points, 979 turns, killed by a troll on hdf-eu 08:08 I was just frustrated, he was blocking a long corridor 08:08 ah ok 08:09 It's usually easier to lure them back into the room you just left, than to wait for them to move away from you down a corridor. 08:09 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:10 jonadab: he was at the *other end* of a very long corridir 08:10 corridor* 08:11 [10fh] Brynhildr (puck) (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the ghost of TKirby, the former Thaumaturge, on T:12874 08:15 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 81 points, 373 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 08:17 EPI: a data deletion scroll on slashem extended 08:18 perhaps it has to be an artifact that's as rare as the deletorous bug 08:18 what's that bug? 08:20 @le?deletorous bug 08:20 No such monster. 08:20 @le?deleterous bug 08:20 No such monster. 08:20 not in beholder yet 08:21 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 08:27 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:29 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:31 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 08:31 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 08:34 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 344 points, 1398 turns, killed by a jackal, while reading a book on hdf-eu 08:34 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 08:43 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 794 points, 973 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 08:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:56 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01 DIED: Rex (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 72 points, 70 turns, killed by an alchemic blast on hdf-eu 09:09 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1053 points, 4322 turns, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 09:22 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:23 DIED: Rex (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 1070 points, 1046 turns, killed by a pony on hdf-eu 09:23 those water demons are so grateful when you use their fountain to dilute your useless potions! 09:32 Rikersan, are you awake?> :p 09:33 Raisse - it's all a trap. THey do grant some wishes sometimes because that makes many a foolish newbie adventurer release them and give them their own soul instead. It's a bit like playing the lottery. 09:34 that being said I once got a wish from a fountain on d17 or 18 09:34 all I wanted was a potion of water instead of sickness, so I could pray over it and get it blessed 09:36 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 09:37 aosdict: Ah. 09:37 ah what? 09:38 -!- stenno\PoP has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 09:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 09:41 !lastgame dnh 09:41 rikersan: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/dnethack/dumplog/1510067143.dnh.txt 09:41 jonadab: ? 09:43 aosdict: other end of a very long corridor. 09:44 In that case, yeah, you walk up to it and write Elbereth, and then it "flees" but doesn't move, and then it stops fleeing and wants to approach you again, except it's already adjacent, rinse, repeat. 09:45 (I personally consider this stationary "fleeing" one of the more glaring AI movement bugs in vanilla.) 09:45 And priests are typically short on things to throw at them, and usually miss anyway. 09:45 (It happens for the same reason that pets don't want to follow you down a corridor if you are even slightly faster than them.) 09:46 Right, I was assuming it was early enough that you had no ranged attacks. 09:46 Floating eyes start showing up pretty early. 09:46 And you've been around NetHack enough to know to use ranged attacks against an eye if you have them. 09:49 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/7b82ul/favourite_pieces_of_unhelpful_advice/?st=j9pwtqvn&sh=5b9e41e3 coming up with advice for this was kinda fun 09:50 more fun if the advice sounds plausible by someone not that well-versed into the game 09:50 Yes, I am enjoying that thread. 09:50 Discovered it at an inconvenient time (needed to get ready for work), didn't get to put much thought into my answer, but. 09:51 "The fastest way to find out which potions are which is to quaff all the unidentified ones you find." I actually do this :P 09:51 When you don't have a unicorn horn? 09:51 yes 09:51 How often to you end up getting killed by a hallucinogen-distorted monster? 09:51 pop quiz! what is wrong with this: To deal with monsters with dangerous wands: make sure to stay at a knight's distance from them. That way, they will not be able to hit you without moving 09:52 jonadab: oh, hallu isn't that bad danger-wise 09:52 it's just annoying 09:52 lock yourself in a closed 09:52 *closet 09:52 while testing 09:52 Ah. 09:52 I suppose. 09:53 Oooh, I like the one about zapping polywand at starting pet. Subtle. 09:53 A lot of moderately-experienced players might think that's sane. 09:53 The knight's move thing would work in NH4, wouldn't it? 09:53 Or is that only in FIQHack? 09:53 nope! 09:53 only in FIQHack and dNetHack 09:53 Ah. 09:53 Ok. 09:53 isn't move+attack a great feature 09:54 the one about ray-type wands is something I do, if I have plenty of HP and a weak ray like magic missile 09:54 Eh, just go a double-knight's-move away (four east/west and six north/south, or vice versa). 09:55 jonadab: sure 09:55 but it's still a horrible feature 09:55 IMO 09:55 aosdict: Or the relevant resistance? 09:55 FIQ: Yes, I agree. 09:55 FIQ: I'd cherry-pick your change if I weren't certain it's dependent on a bunch of your other monster-AI stuff. 09:55 But I'll get it on rebase. 09:55 pretty sure it isn't 09:55 I mean, dnethack has it 09:55 Oh? 09:55 Hmm. 09:56 I might consider it for .5 then. 09:56 It's too late to risk a change like that for .4 though. 09:57 Did you get that idea about corpses from ais' descriptions of unspoiled-player behavior? 09:57 jonadab: just checked 09:57 (He has described seeing unspoiled players do exactly that.) 09:57 apparently 4k also has the fix 09:57 cherry-picked from FIQHack 09:57 FIQ: Oh? Neat. 09:57 Forgot I did that. 09:57 part of 9bdd578c1 09:57 Maybe that's why I thought NH4 has it. Forgot where I inherited the change from. 09:58 jonadab: yes, but he is right 09:58 I did this myself... 09:58 FIQ: Oh, interesting, I did not know that. 10:00 Hah, thought of another one. 10:01 there is actually more roles that start with food :P 10:01 Yes. 10:01 knight is even more fun because they start with apples/etc for a very clear reason 10:01 But the healer's 5-10 apples are barely worth mentioning in that regard. 10:01 (and more fruits than healers) 10:01 And healer is a _hard_ role for new players. 10:02 true 10:08 DIED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 6543 points, 5716 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 10:17 [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12759 10:18 how do I get this canister unglued from my mouth in ZAPM? 10:18 DIED: knaveightt (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 361 points, 600 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 10:29 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 10:31 Well that sucks. 10:31 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Bugpowder ignored the ZAPM challenge. 10:31 Lost wish on 0:1 wand of wishing in castle due to ZAPM challenge interjection. Now cant get my charging scrolls :( 10:32 :/ 10:34 still wishless conduct tho 10:36 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 10:36 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 433 points, 305 turns, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping off a magical draught on hardfought 10:38 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 294 points, 387 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 10:38 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 372 points, 701 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted jackal on hardfought 10:40 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 33 points, 51 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 10:42 jonadab: Thanks for the wonderful comments on that unhelpful advice thread! May I use them as rumors in slex? ;) 10:44 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1329 points, 2586 turns, killed by a housecat, while praying on hardfought 10:44 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 533 points, 523 turns, killed by a kitten on hardfought 10:48 LarienTelrunya: Heh. Knock yourself out. 10:48 yay! 10:49 I'll probably also add some stuff to that thread; gotta be careful to only add stuff that applies to vanilla :D 10:50 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 10:51 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 147 points, 492 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hardfought 10:51 DIED: Eleven (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 9116 points, 10691 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hardfought 10:54 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 118 points, 272 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 10:54 -!- khoR has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:55 -!- Bugpowder_ has joined #hardfought 10:55 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 10:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 10:55 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55 -!- Bugpowder_ is now known as Bugpowder 10:59 LarienTelrunya: no, your unhelpful advice should be "play slex, it will give you lots of good experience that will help you do better in vanilla" :P 10:59 hahaha :D 11:01 DIED: firemonkey (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2735 points, 2604 turns, killed by a giant spider on hardfought 11:02 -!- shpingrlde has joined #hardfought 11:02 i found a shield of reflection dlvl2 shop 11:03 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:05 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! wooble completed the Dig-Dug challenge. 11:10 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 11:12 so I was fighting some soldier ants 11:12 have 2 wands that make engravings vanish 11:12 getting low on health, zap one at the ants. nothing happens, it must be cancellation. 11:13 heal up enough to be safe, zap another at the ants, they vanish... but then "It bites! It stings!" 11:13 now I have invisible ants to deal with 11:13 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 11:15 DIED: Sorcerer (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 25 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 11:16 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 5465 points, 3935 turns, killed by a bugbear on hardfought 11:17 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20171006080225]] 11:18 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Sorcerer accepted the Pool challenge. 11:20 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! winny accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 11:20 wow, a ton of garter snakes spawned in the oracle room 11:20 lots of hiding items :) 11:23 including a magic lamp 11:23 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 11:24 [13dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51010 11:25 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! thisisdeuce completed the Pool challenge. 11:25 wow this run is great 11:25 already have reflection dlvl3, have identified a handful, cloak of protection, , fire,striking,frost,make invis, light wands, excalibur 11:26 DIED: firemonkey (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 352 points, 622 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 11:27 [13dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:51091 11:29 DIED: firemonkey (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 185 points, 263 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 11:29 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 235 points, 268 turns, killed by a newt, while helpless on hardfought 11:29 DU. 11:33 [13dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:51228 11:33 jonadab: "Always play as a human. That way you don't have to learn all the ins and outs of the various races. Humans are the most well-rounded race anyway, and they can be any role." good one 11:34 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Sorcerer accepted the Grue challenge. 11:34 aosdict: ouch lol 11:34 FIQ: beat the ants, beat the snakes, rubbed the lamp on a whim and now have +3 GDSM. Doing pretty well. 11:35 DIED: Sorcerer (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1498 points, 2217 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 11:36 -!- fatty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! winny completed the Pac-Man challenge. 11:38 yay 11:40 -!- fatty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:42 FIQ: I actually did that for my first several years of NetHack play. I wanted to try out different roles but didn't want the combinatorial explosion of roles+races... 11:42 [10fh] Theila (nuclearunicorn7) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4984 points, T:139, killed by a Ms. Kalecik, the shopkeeper's wand 11:42 Only recently started opening myself up to combos like Orc Bar and Gno Wiz. 11:43 !tell Chris_ANG Is it intentional that dnethack still has the mysterious force on the ascension run behaving like it does in vanilla? 11:43 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 11:43 Oooh, that makes me think of another one. 11:44 LarienTelrunya: Pretty sure it doesn't? Should only affect the levels right at the top of gehennom (the so-called infinite staircase region) 11:44 Chris_ANG: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-07 14:43 EST: Is it intentional that dnethack still has the mysterious force on the ascension run behaving like it does in vanilla? 11:44 I know that worked at some point in the past. 11:44 it does I think then 11:44 Chris_ANG: oh, I didn't know that; I just saw Thrak get hit by the force and thought it applied everywhere in Gehennom. 11:44 thrak is on the ascension run right now, had that happen a couple times 11:45 also, evil patch idea: whenever the mysterious force triggers in dnethack, the elder priest resurrects (if dead) and warps to the upstair you just tried to use. 11:45 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46 Evil Patch Idea: the mysterious force works everywhere, even on the Planes. 11:46 evil patch idea: the mysterious force (including elder priest ressurect) does not need you to have the amulet of yendor 11:46 simply leaving dlvl1 counts 11:46 LarienTelrunya: Considered and rejected :P 11:47 Why is there an elder priest anyway? Like, what's the rationale to make such an overpowered monster replace the high priest? 11:47 I had intended at one point to make the Elder Priest explicitly responsible for the force, but decided against it. 11:47 ASCENDED: Grasshopper (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3833565 points, 52253 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/dn36/dumplog/1509659230.dn36.txt 11:47 congrats grassy 11:48 grassy didn't get the highest something or other?! 11:48 NotTheOracle\dnt: quit slackin 11:48 that takes a bit to trigger 11:48 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2161290 points, 35416 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1510031265.dn36.txt 11:49 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 11:49 TROPHY: Grasshopper now holds the Highest Scored Wizard 11:49 TROPHY: Grasshopper just earned the Dilithium Star 11:49 there it is 11:49 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Bugpowder] 11:50 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the Highest Scored Knight 11:51 ... and so it was written in the Book of Grasshopper... 11:51 thanks rikersan :D 11:51 :D 11:51 we tolkien now 11:52 DIED: firemonkey (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1832 points, 1393 turns, killed by a black unicorn on hardfought 11:52 what are you tolkien about 11:54 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! eitkrog accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 11:55 LarienTelrunya: The high priest is a total pushover? If there's one place to have a player-killer monster, it's guarding the amulet. 11:55 Yeah but the elder priest is so powerful, he could probably take on Moloch himself in combat and win, and become the new Moloch. 11:55 I mean tehre's always the wizard 11:55 (If there's multiple places, they're guarding the amulet and a series of mostly-optional bonus-bosses) 11:56 (If there's multiple places, they're guarding the amulet and a series of mostly-optional bonus-bosses) 11:56 he appears capable of killing the elder priest ;D 11:56 -!- Tariru has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56 (If there's multiple places, they're guarding the amulet and a series of mostly-optional bonus-bosses) 11:56 ... not at all bugged or anything 11:56 Also, evil patch idea for dnethack: hostile elder priests can also spawn randomly if the level difficulty is high enough. 11:56 >_< 11:56 I was up in scrollback going "Why isn't that displaying!? I guess I'll try it again >:[" 11:56 EPI for slex: "elder priest itis" is a nasty trap effect/feminist level up effect/wind inhabitant effect/whatever 11:57 [13dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Center of All, on T:52545 11:57 summons elder priests at regular intervals 11:57 haha :D 11:57 and/or a trap taht summons him once 11:57 [13dnh] Thrak (Bar Hlf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:52569 11:57 well, evilvariant mode isn't implemented in slex yet, but it will eventually, and it's gonna have elder priests with tentacle attacks, and bisection/vorpal attacks and data delete attacks and probably also ragnarok attacks since otherwise it would be too easy :P 11:57 _sigh_ the wizard is such a pushover 11:58 ragnarok? what's that? 11:58 A type of scroll that causes elder priests to randomly generate, when that scroll is in inventory (even inside a container). Random label, of course. 11:58 EPI: ^ 11:58 :D 11:58 hmm 11:59 branchport works on devnull challenges 11:59 Evil Patch idea: ragnarok attacks. Some high-level monsters (e.g. the elder priest) have it, and it will transform half of all squares on the level into lava and spawn dozens of very high-level D and H and E and &. They will not drop corpses or items when killed. And the player will be continuously weeping angel contaminated for the next d10000 turns. 11:59 I wonder if you can abuse this to access challenges after you're out of lives 11:59 Makes sense if they're implemented as branches. 11:59 FIQ: of course it does, they're branches 11:59 yeah but... 11:59 what I said 11:59 what happens if you try to branchport to, say, digdug 11:59 with no lives left 12:00 larien: add elder priest as a difficulty 1 monster for purposes of "summon boss monster" scrolls, but not used for "boss companion" scrolls? :D 12:00 The obvious would be, you die. But that's probably not what happens. 12:00 or make him untame and be hostile immediately after spawning 12:00 FIQ: would be nice if doing that would cause a kill screen :D 12:00 jonadab: my suspicion is that it allows you in 12:01 FIQ: Entirely possible. 12:01 and killing again sets you at -1 lives, or possibly 4294967295 12:01 rikersan: slex already has code in place that I can use to cause certain monsters to untame rapidly if the player somehow obtains a tame version :D 12:01 you have lives in digdug?? 12:01 :D 12:01 aosdict: yes, 3 12:01 then you're kicked out 12:01 and can't reenter 12:01 p 12:01 acman works the same 12:01 aosdict: digdug was originally an arcade game. 12:01 -!- dave____ has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:01 Its goal was to get you to put more quarters in. 12:01 so when you get hit, that instakills one of your "lives"? 12:01