00:18 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! flump accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 00:23 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:23 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 00:24 -!- stenno is now known as Guest65053 00:26 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 00:26 -!- Guest65053 has quit [Changing host] 00:26 -!- Guest65053 has joined #hardfought 00:27 -!- Guest65053 is now known as stenno 00:33 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1600 points, 816 turns, killed by a dwarf on altorg 00:35 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 8 points, 139 turns, killed by a jackal on altorg 00:35 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 512 points, 1689 turns, killed by a coyote on hdf-eu 00:39 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 430 points, 724 turns, killed by an invisible water demon on hdf-eu 00:39 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry), and Highest Scored Valkyrie 00:39 TROPHY: elenmirie now holds the Best Behaved Ascension 00:40 TROPHY: ninetale now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Best Behaved Ascension, Highest Scored Ascension (aka the Berry), and Highest Scored Valkyrie 00:40 TROPHY: ninetale just earned the Dilithium Star 00:41 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 109 points, 122 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted large mimic on hdf-eu 00:47 DIED: ninetale (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 548 points, 1000 turns, killed by a small mimic on altorg 00:49 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:54 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 00:55 QUIT: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1090 points, 528 turns, quit on altorg 00:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1784 points, 2286 turns, killed by a dog on hdf-eu 00:56 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 24 points, 74 turns, killed by a falling rock on hdf-eu 01:00 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 153 points, 224 turns, killed by a grid bug on hdf-eu 01:07 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 01:08 DIED: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 633 points, 1185 turns, killed by a dwarf on altorg 01:08 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205316704106971136/375498444183306240/unknown.png 01:08 this error 01:08 can go die in a fire 01:09 "The error resists!" 01:09 out of all errors nethack4/fiqhack has had 01:09 this one stands out 01:09 FIQ: what happens if you hit spacebar, enter or something like that? what option will it default to? 01:09 because it simply DOES NOT GO AWAY 01:09 did it just like happen? 01:10 for no reason? 01:10 hopefully it doesn't default to "leave the save file to be recovered 2 months later when kerio feels like it" :P 01:10 you are in the same spot as a monster? 01:10 LarienTelrunya: it will force you to choose a letter 01:10 StatueSurfer_: stenno: no 01:10 basically 01:10 FIQ: ah 01:10 when ais523 rewrote the AI 01:10 okay good it has a cause anyway 01:11 he changed how muxy are managed 01:11 so that instead of muxy being the same as the monster meaning "the monster doesn't know where you are" 01:11 it is rowno/colno 01:11 the first time I encountered such an error, it went away immediately since I apparently pressed R (I was in the middle of keystroke-intensive stuff and suddenly the error popped up and disappeared and then I had to bother kerio to fix it) 01:11 this assumption change 01:11 has brought upon us this error 01:11 whenever the old assumption is in place or similar 01:12 and it can happen 01:12 in a ton of cases 01:12 apparently 01:12 so until this is fixed don't blind monster, don't turn invisible, and don't use displacement? 01:12 this time it was a covetous monster 01:12 that caused it 01:13 oh gosh... 01:13 how? 01:13 StatueSurfer_: naw those cases is fixed 01:13 -!- khoR has joined #hardfought 01:13 oh i get it 01:13 ah 01:13 StatueSurfer_: I don't know, I need to check MTF's save to see why it happened 01:13 i guess the covetous monster couldn't warp to you or smth? 01:13 as said 01:13 I dunno 01:13 alright 01:13 it can be anything for all I know 01:14 Good morning sunshines. I hope everyone has a great and lovely day. <3 01:14 CHALLENGE IGNORED! chuggy ignored the Waldo challenge. 01:14 sometimes I'm tempted to just ignore muxy errors 01:14 but that will just hide bugs 01:14 hi khoR! 01:15 Hello FIQ. 01:15 Would that angel mount I forgot the name of be good for a pacifist run? 01:15 ki-rin 01:15 archons are better 01:15 but can't be mounted 01:15 dragons are better 01:15 pls 01:16 this is fiqhack 01:16 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 383 points, 269 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 01:16 oh yeah they can breathe in your mod right 01:16 Really? 01:16 have you seen MTF's fiqhack knight stream 01:16 Dragons are better than ki-rins? 01:16 I guess for paci it is more arguable 01:16 but generally, dragons make superior mounts now 01:16 Don't ki-rins like... 01:17 Heal you and stuff? 01:17 i guess mount a black dragon and watch it blow crap up? 01:17 can't heal you if they're being ridden 01:17 StatueSurfer_: yep 01:17 they heal themselves 01:17 that is what MTF did 01:17 Can I ask why? 01:17 khoR: you think I should make it possible? 01:18 ki-rins are faster though 01:18 It depends on if they don't for a reason or is just a code limitation. 01:18 well... the player was never able to be ridden so I never coded it 01:18 Does a non ridden ki-rin heal you? 01:18 StatueSurfer_: fiqhack dragons are much stronger 01:18 khoR: yes 01:18 if they have the spell 01:18 Is there a reason riding it would make it so they cannoy? 01:18 khoR: they also haste you 01:18 cannot* 01:19 khoR: as said 01:19 it was simply because I never thought of implementing it 01:19 Yes, I don't mean code-wise. 01:19 I mean rpg wise. 01:19 I don't see a reason why I shouldn't 01:19 Then do. :D 01:19 same with speed monster 01:20 etc 01:20 Just make sure that if you don't ride a dragon he disintegrates you. :D 01:21 why would he do that 01:21 what 01:21 "You slip while trying to mount the black dragon. The dragon disintegrates you!" 01:21 sounds legit 01:22 i guess you based your dragons off GruntHack's dragons? 01:22 no 01:22 oh 01:22 i just saw that those dragons were buffed up 01:23 EPI: black dragons disintegrate on touch, which means that trying to saddle them disintegrates the saddle. 01:24 FIQ: It was just a joke with monsters using skills on players riding them. 01:24 they are 01:24 but in different ways to fiqhack 01:24 LarienTelrunya: If that is true, why does hitting them with your weapon not disintegrate the weapon? 01:24 fiqhack dragons are merely just faster 01:25 otherwise their *strength* is similar 01:25 but their AI is better 01:25 ah 01:25 like 01:25 i take it they now breathe while you're adjacent to them 01:25 they will try to stay in line 01:25 and spam their breath 01:25 and they can breathe when adjacant 01:25 and if they run out of breath 01:26 they will try to avoid melee initiative 01:26 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4495 points, 1708 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 01:26 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26 khoR: well it would have to do that as well :D kinda like the disintegrator from unnethack 01:26 and will stay out of your own rays/etc 01:26 also 01:26 their breath can pierce reflection 01:26 Running away doenst sound very dragony. 01:26 similar to wand skill 01:27 LarienTelrunya: And also your armor if they hit you in melee. 01:27 khoR: they try to preserve their survival 01:27 they will not run away unless low on HP 01:27 and will only do so until HP is ok again 01:27 then they will continue pursuing you 01:27 khoR: Yeah, also like disintegrators. IIRC they would even go so far as to pick a random armor piece, and instakill you if you don't have it, so if it picks the glove slot and you didn't find gloves yet, DYWYPI? 01:28 That sounds bad. 01:28 CHALLENGE IGNORED! chuggy ignored the Grue challenge. 01:28 disintegrators are dumb 01:28 dynahack removed them 01:28 un still have them 01:28 It should make it so that you lose the limb and cannot use shields or two handed weapons. 01:28 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Disintegrator "If this selects a body part that is not covered by armor, you are disintegrated." 01:28 If it is the chest sure. 01:28 that would likely be too much of a hassle to program khoR h 01:28 this isn't IVAN 01:29 StatueSurfer_: Life is using force of will to get through hassles. 01:29 And it's usually worth it. 01:29 then you program it 01:29 I don't have time or will to do a nethack variant. 01:30 A couple of maps are enough for me. 01:30 :P 01:32 here's an idea i've been chewing on for my future mod: having certain monsters turn peaceful when you reach a certain level 01:33 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 01:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grassy] by ChanServ 01:33 StatueSurfer_: you should make it possible to displace peacefuls in your variant 01:33 I did it in fiqhack 01:33 makes them oh so much less annoying 01:33 yeah that'd be cool 01:36 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:36 i also want to add a feature where under certain circumstances some monsters are replaced by stronger ones 01:38 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 01:38 !tell Grasshopper au.hardfought.org 01:38 Will do, FIQ! 01:39 thanks FIQ - I tested the pings and they were good (~150ms), about 1/2 the pings I'm getting to hardfought central 01:39 Grasshopper: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 04:38 EDT: au.hardfought.org 01:40 but unf I started a game on main server before I saw that there was an au one 01:40 FIQ: The peaceful displacement works great. :D 01:40 Grasshopper: ahh 01:40 StatueSurfer_: I really like your first idea, not the second one though. 01:40 sorry then :p 01:40 btw I'm in Thailand - so getting better pings from Australia than from US east coast 01:40 why don't you like the second one 01:41 will play next devnull game on au.hardfought.org 01:42 StatueSurfer_: I feel like theres enough circumstances for you to fight strong monsters, and if those don't kill you throwing more of them will just be an annoyance instead of a challenge. 01:42 would be nice after tourney to look into bones sharing 01:42 so ahdf gets the same bones as hdf/ehdf 01:42 hmmm 01:43 StatueSurfer_: you're making a nethack variant? or just thinking about making one? I'd want to look at the code if you have a github repo :) 01:43 * LarienTelrunya is always looking for stuff to steal for her own variant 01:43 i haven't been able to start yet 01:43 steal this one: ovens 01:43 will it be based off 3.6 01:43 as sinks are to rings, so ovens are to potions 01:44 yes FIQ 01:44 because that would make it the 1st 3.6 variant 01:44 ovens can also set stuff on fire 01:45 heh, I've been thinking about adding a dungeon feature that can identify amulets, similar to how sinks can identify rings 01:46 what would cooking do to a corpse? increase the rot timeout? higher nutrition? better chance of getting intrinsics if it's a type that can convey them? 01:46 i'd give it lower nutrition, but prevent rot 01:46 or maybe just extend rot 01:48 welp gtg 01:48 -!- StatueSurfer_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:53 gotta charge a wand of digging 01:53 feels bad an 01:53 man 01:54 nice patch idea: add a few more sources of uncursed charging, so it doesn't feel like an utter waste to recharge common wands (compared to using blessed charging on valuable ones like death or wishing) 01:56 fiqhack has more sources of charging 02:00 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2599 points, 2030 turns, killed by an iguana on hdf-au 02:03 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 8458 points, 12212 turns, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 02:05 ASCENDED: Luxidream (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 705353 points, 50765 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/dn36/dumplog/1509588271.dn36.txt 02:06 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Tangles accepted the Waldo challenge. 02:06 TROPHY: Luxidream now holds the Grand Prize (Best of 13), Lowest Scored Ascension, "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?", Most Ascensions, and Highest Scored Monk 02:06 TROPHY: OrderOfTheCockatrice now holds the Best In Show 02:07 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 564 points, 677 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 02:16 -!- Ninetale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:19 !tell FIQ does this work 02:19 Will do, FIQ! 02:19 . 02:19 FIQ: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 05:19 EDT: does this work 02:20 -!- FIQ is now known as FredrIQ 02:20 urgh that wont work 02:20 -!- FredrIQ is now known as FIQ 02:20 can someone mention fiqhack ? 02:20 I added highlight to it, want to see if it works 02:21 fiqhack 02:21 thanks 02:21 it works 02:21 now I don't need to grep my logs every now and then to see mentions of it, in case someone had a question about it/etc 02:22 add a highlight to gameoverhack too, I occasionally use that term ;) 02:22 I don't want to be highlighted whenever slex is mentioned 02:23 also, https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2192 is adorable :) 02:26 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! elenmirie completed the Waldo challenge. 02:32 DIED: Rex (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 7509 points, 4336 turns, killed by a minotaur on hdf-eu 02:32 LarienTelrunya: those bugs were actually both inherited from nethack4 02:33 (and one of them wasn't a bug at all but user error) 02:54 -!- Newt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:00 LarienTelrunya: slex webtiles when? 03:00 jonadab: Message from LarienTelrunya at 2017-11-02 02:58 EDT: If I had more time to play, I'd probably be able to ascend many more roles :P 03:01 jonadab: probably never, unless someone who has way too much time on their hands makes them 03:02 Also, https://github.com/SLASHEM-Extended/SLASHEM-Extended/commit/e6aaf6ffa1e016fd9608a120acc9f5cf626d850d :D 03:02 LarienTelrunya: What if I wrote a script that generates tiles at random? 03:03 heh, would anyone want to play a tiled version where it's impossible to recognize what a given tile is actually supposed to represent? 03:03 People play with the default tileset. 03:03 with ascii, you know that a purple h might be something dangerous; with fuzzy tiles all the monsters look mostly the same (to me anyway) 03:03 Most of the monsters in the default tileset are basically just little blobs of color. 03:12 lol 03:12 jonadab: just make a tileset for the sole purpose of having 256colors 03:17 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 9881 points, 9170 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 03:18 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 861 points, 2395 turns, killed by a pony on hdf-eu 03:18 TROPHY: bebing just earned the Lead Star 03:21 -!- noty has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 03:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 03:23 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 197 points, 573 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 03:27 aosdict: I was looking at my earlier MKoT PR 03:28 in the process, I found out which one of x/y starts at 1 in NH3 03:28 it is x 03:28 so you want 03:28 + for (x = 1; x < COLNO; x++) 03:28 + for (y = 0; y < ROWNO; y++) 03:29 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 637 points, 1402 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 03:31 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:33 FIQ: Heh, a tileset where each monster is a different-colored letter M, because M stands for monster? 03:33 nah, just "faketerm" but 256color instead of 16color 03:34 Ah. 03:36 LarienTelrunya: It's only November 2nd, you still have time to do NaTiDraMo with me. Draw a tileset during the month of November! 03:36 Uhh... I'd much rather participate in the devnull tournament 03:36 thanks for the invitation but I fear I have to decline ;) 03:37 BTW, have you seen the (beginnings of the) tileset I am drawing? http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com/pastebin/916.png 03:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2024 points, 2980 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 03:38 jonadab: this will be the last year of devnull 03:38 now or never 03:38 FIQ: I know. 03:38 jonadab: yeah you showed me that draft, I still remember saying that the weapon graphics look cute :) 03:38 Ah, right. 03:38 Now I also have traps. 03:39 Though I still have to do the pits. 03:39 s/do/figure out how to do/ 03:41 wtf, the traps are those pastel violet squares I guess? 03:42 jonadab: how pitiful 03:42 what are the ones that my mind interprets as "inflate horizontally" and "inflate vertically"? teleporters? 03:42 teleport trap and levelporter, yes. 03:44 Also, that's pastel magenta. The set also has a pastel violet (and a pastel indigo). 03:44 No, wait. 03:45 That is pastel violet. 03:45 Nevermind, I looked at it wrong. 03:45 Pastel magenta is like the magic missile rays. 03:45 Which are right after the traps. 03:45 (Pastel indigo is like the sleep rays.) 03:46 is this going to be called the "pastel colors tileset"? 03:46 I've tentatively named it "fmob", which stands for "flat mono on black" 03:46 these tiles are really hard to make out in a browser that makes transparent white/gray squares 03:47 FIQ: Ah, I'd intended them for use on dark backgrounds (all the terrains are going to be dark-ish). 03:47 yeah 03:47 I figured 03:47 LarienTelrunya: The monsters are really more neon than pastel. 03:48 And then there's the items. Not sure how to describe those shades. They're less saturated. 03:48 what are the single-color windows logos? 03:48 ah, I see 03:48 Dragon scales 03:48 ah 03:48 this tileset is rather abstract in general 03:48 gonna be afk for a while now 03:48 like ascii 03:48 FIQ: Yes. 03:50 I'm not sure if the colors used for black monsters and black items are going to show up well enough on the dark backgrounds; but if I decide not, I can just adjust the numbers on the palette entries, and not need to change the actual images at all. 03:50 Also, I think the translucent colors may be _too_ translucent (currently: 50%). 04:00 Incidentally, if you do a Google images search for mimic, most of the relevant results are chests with teeth; many of them also have a large tongue lolling out. Further, a disturbing number of them also have a scantily clad female sitting in the open maw of the monster, looking far less distressed than would be expected for a person in such a situation. 04:00 jonadab: This is not unique to mimics 04:00 Ah, is that a general phenomon with any random monster you look for? 04:00 Google (and especially Bing) search results are always like that 04:00 Ah. 04:00 No 04:00 I see. 04:00 It is a general phenomon with *everything* 04:01 Right. 04:01 That does actually make a perverse kind of sense. 04:01 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheInternetIsForPorn 04:01 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleThirtyFour?from=Main.Rule34 04:01 THIS IS WHY 04:01 err, -caps 04:02 jonadab: Have you not realized this earlier? 04:02 In general, yes, but for some reason when I went looking for pictures of an obscure type of monster I didn't expect it to apply. 04:02 I'm so used to seeing that kind of google results and similar that I just filter it out unconsciously 04:02 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1089 points, 1890 turns, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion on hardfought 04:02 Not sure why I didn't. 04:03 jonadab: Mimics aren't that obscure, though 04:03 Well, not like zruty. 04:03 THAT is obscure. 04:03 yeah 04:03 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 6 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 04:03 inb4 picture of scantily clad female zruty 04:03 Wouldn't surprise me 04:04 I don't really want to confirm 04:04 LarienTelrunya: tileset concept, go: every monster is female and scantily clad. 04:04 Scantily clad female zombie, scantily clad female werewolf, scantily clad female mummy, scantily clad female warg, ... 04:04 the rule34 tileset 04:05 Scantily clad female gelatinous cube, I mean, why not. 04:05 Scantily clad female dissolved undead potato. 04:05 jonadab: Most games with mods have an obligatory "every female is nude"/similar mod 04:05 Similar 04:07 jonadab: if you want to ruin innocence 04:07 bing image search for gelatinous cube, zruty, etc 04:07 see what happens 04:07 I dare you 04:07 The gelatinous cube would probably be *eating* a scantily clad female, I suppose. 04:07 Probably 04:07 Not sure if that is more or less disturbing than the gelcube *being* a scantily clad female. 04:08 Easier to draw, probably. 04:09 zruty results are mostly screenshots of ASCII roguelikes. 04:09 That is refreshingly boring. 04:12 heh 04:16 It's because the zruty really is _THAT_ obscure. Nobody would have any idea how to draw one. 04:17 THe lore is that it's large and, umm, lives in solitude. And is large. 04:17 There's literally no actual information on the internet about what a zruty looks like, or how it behaves, or anything like that. 04:18 At least, not in English. 04:19 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 505 points, 1645 turns, killed by a contaminated potion on hardfought 04:22 morning 04:22 !players 04:22 K2: flump [15dn36] Eleven [15dn36] Glord [15dn36] Grasshopper [15dn36] hothraxxa [15dn36] zaga [15dn36] bebing [15dn36] 04:22 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 234 points, 344 turns, killed by a little dog called Oddie on hardfought 04:24 Oh, dn36 is a much more sedate color now. 04:25 yes 04:25 fiqhack gets enough play, I needed to separate their colors 04:27 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 28 points, 101 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 04:27 interestingly, fiqhack's only new monster happens to be cyan 04:27 \o/ 04:29 !tell ais523 isn't %.*s ANSI? 04:29 Will do, FIQ! 04:30 Shimmering dragons are cyan? 04:30 jonadab: yes 04:30 Interesting, I did not know that. 04:32 jonadab: did you see that Lux ascended another devnull game 04:33 FIQ: I wasn't really watching for devnull ascensions; I assume there will be many. 04:33 we have four total so far 04:33 Luxidream has 2 04:36 this is the first time I've actually used a potion of oil seriously 04:36 yay grue challenge 04:36 jonadab: haha, and all the scantily clad females (including gelatinous cubes, lichens, air elementals and whatever) wear high heels? ♥ 04:39 There, that looks like a web, I think. 04:40 LarienTelrunya: high heels, sure, why not? 04:43 A lichen wearing high heels is totally a normal thing to draw. 04:44 I suppose it would be wrong to draw a scantily clad female incubus, though. 04:45 heh 04:47 -!- Glord has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:47 ugh I shouldn't have googled for "female lichen" :/ 04:47 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! groovejumper accepted the Pool challenge. 04:47 also how can an incubus be female without turning into a succubus? :D 04:47 YANI: if you're polymorphed into a foocubus and put on an amulet of change, you polymorph into the opposite gender of foocubus. 04:51 Wait, are foocubi valid polyforms? 04:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! spontiff accepted the Joust challenge. 04:51 Huh. They ARE. 04:52 In which case, if using an amulet of change while polymorphed into one _doesn't_ make you the other kind of one, I'd consider it a (minor corner case) bug, in the TDDTOE category. 04:52 YANI: when polymorphed into a foocubus, and a monster uses a bullwhip on you, it produces a YAFM along the lines of "It feels very soothing" or "You long for more". 04:52 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1957 points, 2364 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai on hardfought 04:57 FIQ: Does your monster gender patch turn foocubi into a single monster with distinct names for male and famale? 05:03 not yet 05:03 because I need to figure out where a permonst is referenced save-wise 05:04 DIED: FIQ (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4108 points, 4476 turns, killed by a troll on hdf-eu 05:09 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! telegarn accepted the Pool challenge. 05:09 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! groovejumper completed the Pool challenge. 05:14 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 05:15 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 10097 points, 5143 turns, eaten by a Grue on hdf-au 05:15 TROPHY: Tangles now holds the Highest Scored Barbarian 05:16 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 9250 points, 8631 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 05:20 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 29 points, 113 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 05:23 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! telegarn accepted the Grue challenge. 05:24 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1475 points, 2901 turns, killed by a little dog called Ma-Mutt on hardfought 05:24 -!- dave____ has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:25 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 334 points, 582 turns, killed by kicking something weird on hardfought 05:30 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! telegarn accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 05:32 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! groovejumper accepted the Grue challenge. 05:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 2313 points, 2168 turns, killed by a killer bee on hardfought 05:40 DIED: wooble (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 350 points, 200 turns, killed by a magical explosion on hardfought 05:41 -!- Tangles is now known as tangles\splat 05:41 -!- Mandevil is now known as Mandevil\splat 05:43 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3514 points, 6801 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 05:43 DIED: wooble (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 47 points, 75 turns, choked on a tin of spinach on hardfought 05:44 DIED: wooble (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 0 points, 3 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 05:45 DIED: wooble (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 43 points, 55 turns, killed by a newt on hardfought 05:46 DIED: wooble (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 37 points, 9 turns, choked on a deadly slime mold on hardfought 05:49 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 05:49 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! telegarn completed the Pool challenge. 05:49 DIED: wooble (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 31 points, 59 turns, killed by a sewer rat called herbie (with the Amulet) on hardfought 05:49 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 32 points, 51 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 05:49 hmm 05:50 region code has a framework that is more engineered than what nethack ultimately uses 05:51 temporary regions, what to do if a monster enters/leaves a region, what happens with stuff inside it, potential graphics to display it, etc 05:51 DIED: AmyBSOD (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 0 points, 201 turns, killed by a fox called ascended (with the Amulet) on hardfought 05:52 -!- firemonkey is now known as firemonkey\splat 05:53 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 72 turns, killed by a giant beetle on hardfought 05:53 its the death march 05:55 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 206 points, 469 turns, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse on hardfought 05:55 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 05:55 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 13 turns, caught herself in her own burning oil on hardfought 05:59 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 208 points, 539 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 05:59 DIED: telegarn (Ran-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1630 points, 1853 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hardfought 06:01 -!- Haudegen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03 DIED: Tangles (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1331 points, 1791 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-au 06:03 FIQ: Yes, somebody was telling me at some point that the regions code could probably handle stuff like Brogue-style spreading gasses, as far as the engine goes. (Displaying them would be trickier, because you want to show denser/sparser, which kind of really needs Brogue's color infrastructure.) 06:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 653 points, 619 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 06:11 DIED: telegarn (Hea-Hum-Mal-Neu), 98 points, 145 turns, killed by a falling rock on hardfought 06:13 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 302 points, 246 turns, killed by a falling object on hardfought 06:14 jonadab: YASI: make zruties ungenocideable and use them as fallback monster in case whatever was previously referenced was removed as a monster 06:14 then they serve a purpose! 06:17 Heh. 06:18 DIED: shadowcat (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 707 points, 1995 turns, killed by a pony, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 06:19 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1200 points, 870 turns, killed by a werejackal on hardfought 06:20 FIQ: don't really see a reason to change the loops though? it works fine starting at 0 06:20 jonadab: cannot reproduce your image search results, on duckduckgo at least 06:20 aosdict: This is for save handling if monsters are added/removed 06:21 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:896 06:21 SOmeone's playing Fourk during devnull? Weird. 06:21 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 262 points, 258 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 06:22 man, i wanna play devnull but i gotta goto class :( 06:22 and i gotta read a 20 page paper on virtual agents 06:22 and i gotta write a blurb about it (!) grrr 06:22 and i gotta grade some python homeworks 06:22 GRRRRRRRRR adult responsibilities what does it take for a boy to be able to play nethack 06:23 winny: Play NetHack at night. Sleep is for the weak! 06:23 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 111 points, 139 turns, killed by a died on hardfought 06:23 good point! 06:25 You can sleep in December! 06:25 :D 06:25 FIQ: can you explain how it will break saves somehow to iterate starting at 0, and what that has to do with monsters? 06:25 i might just play nethack through class 06:26 one of my classes is basically show up to be there, idk when i show up, it's elementary systems programming business 06:26 we working with dirents this week, not exactly earth shattering when you've played with c all your adult life 06:29 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 598 points, 509 turns, killed by wedging into a narrow crevice, while moving through the air on hardfought 06:29 aosdict: no like 06:29 let's say I remove kittens 06:29 then they would transform to zruties as fallback 06:29 in existing games 06:30 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 8 points, 6 turns, killed by a boiling potion on hardfought 06:31 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1727 points, 3342 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 06:32 FIQ: what does monster handling in saves have to do with iterating over the whole map to light it up 06:32 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! eitbo accepted the Pool challenge. 06:32 aosdict: ??? 06:32 Oh 06:32 I misunderstood what you was talking about 06:33 Anyway 06:33 The game map starts at 1 06:33 x=1 06:33 not x=0 06:33 you *could* use x=0, it will hopefully not break things 06:33 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 158 points, 422 turns, deliberately plunged into a pit on hardfought 06:33 but it... isn't right 06:34 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 89 points, 103 turns, killed by contaminated water on hardfought 06:37 DIED: shadowcat (Ran-Gno-Fem-Neu), 995 points, 2068 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 06:37 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 526 points, 1102 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 06:38 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 180 points, 288 turns, killed by a guard on hardfought 06:38 aosdict: Note that there are several different things in the code that use various special values for x,y coordinates to mean certain things. These values are typically ones that *theoretically* shouldn't arise for other reasons (such as a monster's idea of where the player is being its own location, or a monster being located at 0,0 or ROWNO,COLNO or somesuch). 06:38 NH4 has had a lot of bugs over the years related to all this. 06:39 Because if you're making any change that has to do with the coordinate system in any way, and you fail to take into account some of the weird special cases, you get bugs. 06:39 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 140 points, 182 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth on hardfought 06:40 -!- hpardis has joined #hardfought 06:40 ugh, well having switched from many branches to one main branch means that if I introduce a "fix" commit further along after committing other stuff, it's harder to produce a feature patch with only that one thing 06:40 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 95 points, 70 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 06:42 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 390 points, 239 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 06:45 aosdict: What is the motivation for using one main branch? 06:45 I call that the "I am used to CVS and have no idea how to git" way of doing things. 06:47 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 583 points, 1680 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying on hardfought 06:49 jonadab: Because I am working on a lot of different granular changes, my old repo structure was getting up to like 30 branches, most of which had 1-2 commits and no plans for more. 06:49 I'm still using branches for larger features. 06:49 DIED: groovejumper (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3160 points, 4212 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 06:49 And stuff I can't merge in at present. 06:52 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 772 points, 1048 turns, killed by a djinni on hardfought 06:55 hm 06:55 so, problem 06:55 NH4 has no way from the windowport to denote a monster's gender 06:56 meaning removing the seperate succubus monst will make female incubi use the incubus tileset 06:58 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] 06:59 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! eitbo completed the Pool challenge. 07:01 FIQ: Wait, doesn't rl-tiles have a tile for male Valkyrie? 07:01 And, like, female orc wizard? 07:01 there is a catch 07:01 the windowport *does* know *your* gender! 07:02 Ah. 07:02 Player-only. 07:02 I see. 07:02 try to go to astral some time 07:02 with tiles 07:02 You get all male-priest for the female priestess monsters? 07:02 no, because those are actually seperate monsters 07:02 but you get racial modifiers, etc 07:02 which use the same concept 07:03 and if you play, say, a valkyrie 07:03 or something that doesn't have seperate monsts 07:03 but does have seperate gender tiles 07:03 it will use your gender 07:04 Ah. 07:04 So if you play a dwarven valk, all player-monster valks will be dwarven? 07:04 yes 07:04 DIED: wooble (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 537 points, 983 turns, killed by touching Sting on hardfought 07:06 :3 07:07 jonadab: btw 07:07 this change 07:07 I just did 07:07 worked on first try 07:08 DIED: schnippi (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 514 points, 780 turns, killed by a rothe on hdf-eu 07:08 FIQ: how'd you work around the problem? 07:08 (For tiles, I mean.) 07:08 I didn't 07:08 Still needs seperate fixing 07:08 Ah. 07:08 But I successfully removed succubi 07:08 And added all the proper save handling 07:08 And it all worked right away 07:08 That is nice 07:09 You're getting comfortable with the save handling code. 07:09 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! schnippi accepted the Pool challenge. 07:09 yes and no 07:09 I know the save/restore logic 07:09 quite well 07:09 at this point 07:09 but the internals 07:09 like... the differ, etc 07:09 is all a mystery to me 07:09 and I hope that to remain the case for a while 07:09 I don't really want to look at it 07:10 I fear that I might have to, to fix replaymode performance 07:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 262 points, 516 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 07:10 But you're afraid that if you come to understand that code, it will warp your mind so that the rest of the universe no longer makes sense? 07:11 no, I mostly fear the process itself 07:11 of trying to make sense of the code 07:11 it took me months to make sense of the AI code fully 07:11 -!- Nidan is now known as Nidan\unfoog 07:11 and there's still parts that are a bit unclear to me 07:13 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 167 points, 68 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hardfought 07:15 -!- HTTPS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 112 points, 337 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag on hardfought 07:16 -!- HTTPS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:20 -!- dave____ has joined #hardfought 07:20 !tell ais523 So I am trying to figure out how substitutions are applied, tiles-wise. I want to figure out what to change to make libnethack able to tell the engine about a monster's gender. Currently I can't even figure out how it gets the *player's* gender because all I see is some sanity checks 07:20 Will do, FIQ! 07:22 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 07:23 hi Webmant 07:24 jonadab: cave(wo)men and priest(esse)s are still seperate because I didn't add logic to get rid of them yet 07:24 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 324 points, 348 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 07:24 i.e. ripping out the logic to handle them being duplicates 07:28 -!- Webmant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:29 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! schnippi completed the Pool challenge. 07:33 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:35 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 10673 points, 9282 turns, killed by a rope golem on hdf-eu 07:35 [07nd] oh6 (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 520 points, T:651, killed by a giant ant 07:39 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 866 points, 3105 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 07:40 [13dnh] rikerw (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2216 07:40 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ /dev/null/nethack tribute tournament has officially started! - https://www.hardfought.org/devnull 07:40 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v NotTheOracle\dnt] by K2 07:47 DIED: schnippi (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1213 points, 2193 turns, killed by a dog on hdf-eu 07:50 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! noims accepted the Waldo challenge. 07:53 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 51 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 07:56 FIQ, K2: could FIQ take a look at my save? It crashed on using the upstairs from Moloch's sanctum and won't reload. 07:57 DIED: BossGalaga (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 618 points, 1543 turns, poisoned by a rotted little dog corpse on hardfought 07:57 wow, 3 waldo impersonators in the Shrine of Destiny 07:58 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 555 points, 526 turns, fell onto a sink on hardfought 07:59 [04gh] NeroOneTrueKing (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 133 points, T:342, killed by an iguana 08:00 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 12 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth on hardfought 08:00 ... 08:01 so I was wondering why my removal of female player monsters broke it so that you were referred to as "priest" if female 08:01 the reason was "because I selected male since I always select male" 08:02 DIED: schnippi (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 478 points, 1526 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 08:02 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 177 points, 404 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 08:04 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! eitbo accepted the Grue challenge. 08:04 jonadab: There. No more duplicate permonsts 08:05 FIQ: Now your hat is over the fence: now you _have_ to solve the issue with the female substitution tiles. 08:05 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 735 points, 572 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe on hardfought 08:05 Actually, those aren't an issue 08:06 since female versions of existing non-duplicates already existed 08:06 Just need to rename the tiles 08:06 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! shuteye accepted the Pool challenge. 08:06 Only foocubi is an issue 08:06 I don't mean the tiles, I mean getting the game to show them. 08:07 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Nidan accepted the Pool challenge. 08:07 I mean, it *ought* to be as simple as going "sub female [monster type]" 08:07 But you seem to have implied that it wouldn't be that easy. 08:07 Something about the client not knowing gender. 08:08 DIED: Luna (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 9913 points, 10058 turns, killed by a mumak on hdf-eu 08:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 136 points, 1074 turns, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 08:12 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 151 points, 163 turns, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs on hardfought 08:14 DIED: knaveightt (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1366 points, 2975 turns, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 08:15 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! OtsMcGee accepted the Pool challenge. 08:15 jonadab: no, like 08:15 the *player* female cavemen will still be displayed correctly 08:15 after tiles renames 08:16 YASI: new role, gender studies professor. Gets politically correct pronouns any time the game mentions something's gender. For them, items and traps and staircases and everything will have genders. 08:16 since that was already a thing for stuff like "sub female valkyrie" 08:16 which never had a duplicate monst in first place 08:16 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:16 "You hit the invisible neuter black light. Xhe explodes!" 08:21 DIED: Muad (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2618 points, 4009 turns, killed by a plains centaur on hdf-eu 08:21 TROPHY: Muad now holds the Highest Scored Archeologist 08:23 jonadab: the issue is with monster and objects (statues) 08:23 since "sub female" matches whenever the player is female 08:23 not whenever the monster, or object, is 08:33 DIED: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 288 points, 211 turns, killed by a gnome on hdf-eu 08:33 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 175 points, 351 turns, poisoned by a little dart on hardfought 08:36 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1341 points, 5103 turns, killed by a giant ant on hdf-eu 08:38 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 105 points, 534 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 08:40 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 48541 points, T:4394, killed by a marilith 08:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:43 DIED: joemaro (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 288 points, 830 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hdf-eu 08:43 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 738 points, 672 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 08:45 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 778 points, 1946 turns, killed by a Kop Sergeant on hardfought 08:47 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! firemonkey completed the Pac-Man challenge. 08:47 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 890 points, 871 turns, killed by a dwarvish spear on hardfought 08:48 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 140 points, 69 turns, killed by a bear trap on hardfought 08:49 DIED: StinkyGreene (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2568 points, 2544 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai on altorg 08:49 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 10023 points, 9398 turns, killed by a pony on hardfought 08:51 DIED: davez (Bar-Hum-Mal-Cha), 766080 points, 38992 turns, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster on hdf-eu 08:51 DIED: shadowcat (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 40 points, 208 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hardfought 08:51 TROPHY: davez now holds the Highest Scored Barbarian 08:51 TROPHY: davez just earned the Brass Star 08:52 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 168 points, 367 turns, killed by a cadaver on hardfought 08:55 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Nidan completed the Pool challenge. 08:57 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 708 points, 1291 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 08:57 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 481 points, 1126 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 09:02 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 202 points, 520 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 09:03 DIED: Mandevil (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 164433 points, 21639 turns, killed by a minotaur on hdf-eu 09:03 TROPHY: Mandevil now holds the Highest Scored Knight 09:03 TROPHY: Mandevil just earned the Zinc Star 09:06 -!- Webmant has joined #hardfought 09:07 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2555 points, 2103 turns, committed suicide on hardfought 09:09 DIED: noims (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 6534 points, 9141 turns, killed by an ettin mummy on hdf-eu 09:12 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:13 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1233 points, 2228 turns, killed by a pony on hardfought 09:15 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! sneakyminx accepted the Pool challenge. 09:16 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 09:17 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 926 points, 1932 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 09:18 DIED: Nidan (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2610 points, 3704 turns, killed by a panther on hardfought 09:19 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! oh6 accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 09:20 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 6243 points, 3480 turns, dissolved in molten lava on hardfought 09:24 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! eitkrog completed the Pool challenge. 09:34 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 548 points, 846 turns, killed by bumping into a wall, while moving through the air on hardfought 09:36 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1843 09:37 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed scroll of charging", on T:1912 09:38 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +7 cloak of displacement", on T:1913 09:41 DIED: wooble (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2392 points, 1371 turns, burned by molten lava on hardfought 09:43 DIED: Webmant (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 136 points, 631 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 09:44 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2412 points, 1992 turns, killed by a raven on hardfought 09:46 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Katung accepted the Pool challenge. 09:47 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 142 points, 248 turns, killed by a water moccasin, while vomiting on hardfought 09:48 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 108 points, 323 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 09:48 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 7804 points, 6286 turns, killed by a Green-elf, while praying on hardfought 09:49 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:49 TROPHY: jackofclubs now holds the Highest Scored Caveman 09:50 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 840 points, 1460 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 09:50 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Mandevil accepted the Grue challenge. 09:50 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 18761 points, T:616, killed by a gnome queen 09:51 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2867 points, 3937 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 09:54 !tell NeroOneTrueKing what's the name of your fiqhack save that's having the issue? 09:54 Will do, K2! 09:54 The only one I have at the moment 09:54 NeroOneTrueKing: Message from K2 at 2017-11-02 12:54 EDT: what's the name of your fiqhack save that's having the issue? 09:54 ok 09:54 i will get to it as soon as I can 09:54 Thanks 09:56 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 451 points, 1064 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 09:59 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 7842 points, 40882 turns, killed by a leocrotta, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu 09:59 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:59 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] 09:59 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1519 points, 2361 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 09:59 TROPHY: spontiff now holds the Highest Scored Healer 09:59 TROPHY: spontiff just earned the Lead Star 10:01 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 10:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 10:02 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! HTTPS accepted the Waldo challenge. 10:03 DIED: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1364 points, 1544 turns, killed by a giant spider on hdf-eu 10:03 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1419 points, 3279 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping on hardfought 10:04 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 78 points, 267 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hardfought 10:07 DIED: Katung (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 936 points, 1823 turns, killed by an imp on altorg 10:08 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 739 points, 1224 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 10:09 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:10 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 635 points, 1218 turns, killed by a priest of Ptah on hardfought 10:11 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! HTTPS accepted the ZAPM challenge. 10:16 ZAPM: HTTPS the Towel Boy Killed by a fuel barrel's explosion in the space base at depth 1. [880 points] 10:17 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:18 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 802 points, 1400 turns, killed by a hobbit, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 10:21 DIED: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1862 points, 2218 turns, killed by a gold golem, while sleeping on hdf-eu 10:25 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 47236 points, T:8530, killed by a blast of missiles 10:27 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 525 points, 697 turns, killed by a boulder on hdf-eu 10:28 DIED: schnippi (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2482 points, 2913 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hdf-eu 10:31 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 10:31 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 258 points, 367 turns, caught herself in her own fireball on hardfought 10:31 i see dead people 10:32 DIED: shadowcat (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 2093 points, 2159 turns, killed by a bolt of cold on hardfought 10:33 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 12291 points, T:4305, killed by a piranha 10:33 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4 points, 72 turns, killed by a kobold on hardfought 10:34 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 21746 points, T:2140, killed by a rothe 10:35 DIED: wooble (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 66 points, 62 turns, killed by a mastodon on hardfought 10:35 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:52018 10:36 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 22527 points, 9580 turns, killed by an owlbear on hardfought 10:38 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5712 points, T:173, killed by a sewer rat 10:41 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:52157 10:44 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Katung completed the Pool challenge. 10:44 DIED: shadowcat (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 642 points, 943 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 10:45 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 908 points, 1561 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 10:45 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:47 is there any way to create lava? 10:48 I think confused scrolls of flood do it in some variants? 10:49 DIED: noims (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 9452 points, 7859 turns, eaten by a Grue on hdf-eu 10:49 or wish for it in wizard mode 10:49 hmm, scrolls of flood don't exist in DNH :( 10:49 gotta find lava 10:50 ...if there even is any outside gehennom 10:50 -!- dave____ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:52 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1085 points, 1792 turns, killed by an invisible wererat on hardfought 10:53 Binders have some in their quest 10:53 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:52522 10:56 hm, I don't remember it. I'll go check it out 10:57 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1570 points, 3669 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 10:59 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! winny accepted the Grue challenge. 10:59 lol 10:59 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 429 points, 1066 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 10:59 interesting 10:59 what is a gue?? 11:00 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 277 points, 420 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 11:00 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:52726 11:01 winny: accept the grue challenge and find out 11:01 i got eaten by a grue :) 11:02 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 11:03 halp 11:03 so weird 11:03 when i got the dialogue that said invalid options, it wouldn't accept my enter key 11:03 only ^j 11:03 oh, didn't see that death 11:03 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki//dev/null/nethack_tournament#Grue_challenge 11:05 -!- Mandarina has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Garland, on T:52881 11:06 thanks aosdict 11:07 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) destroyed Chaos, on T:52899 11:08 also it's great that yall use nano for your editor 11:08 cuz emacs directional keys 11:08 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:09 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! winny accepted the Pool challenge. 11:09 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 11:13 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Mandevil completed the Grue challenge. 11:14 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 776 points, 2437 turns, killed by an elf-lord on hdf-eu 11:21 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5691 points, 3540 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 11:26 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Katung accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 11:29 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! roro256 accepted the Pool challenge. 11:32 DIED: roro256 (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 574 points, 1615 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion on hardfought 11:33 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3149 points, 5201 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hardfought 11:33 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 DIED: winny (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 154 points, 79 turns, killed by a cue boulder on hardfought 11:37 [114k] Arkanoid (arkanoid) (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 615 points, T:231, killed by a giant rat, while sleeping 11:40 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! winny completed the Pool challenge. 11:40 yay 11:44 grats 11:44 time to chew ass and kick bubblegum 11:45 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5802 points, 4331 turns, killed by a horse, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought 11:45 heh 11:45 FIQ: see pm (Nero's saved game issue) 11:47 CHALLENGE IGNORED! joemaro ignored the Pool challenge. 11:48 CHALLENGE IGNORED! joemaro ignored the Joust challenge. 11:49 i think i'll save the zapm challenge for last week 11:54 -!- khoR has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:02 hi 12:02 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 12:02 back 12:02 K2: fixed NeroOneTrueKing's issue 12:04 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 12:08 ok fuck this shit 12:08 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! spontiff accepted the Grue challenge. 12:08 doing baalzebub for the 5th time now 12:08 ? 12:08 did someone teach him how to avert death? 12:08 what '?' 12:08 lair 12:08 his fucking lair 12:09 DIED: spontiff (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 111 points, 207 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 12:09 oh 12:09 mysterious force 12:09 I somehow forgot... 12:10 * stenno suddenly gets reminded of why he stopped playing for a long time 12:10 why not just play variants? 12:11 because there are no variants in devnull 12:11 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! spontiff accepted the Pool challenge. 12:11 dnethack, fiqhack, whatever 12:11 its not junethack 12:11 stenno: no I mean 12:11 "for a long time" 12:11 implies more than devnull 12:12 gotta wish for food soon 12:13 now juib for the 4th time 12:15 hooray 12:16 heh 12:16 paxed has been a very naughty boy today 12:17 he sneaked in an ANSIism 12:17 I wonder how long it will last 12:17 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 9993 points, T:3794, killed by a giant mimic 12:18 what did he do? 12:18 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4245 points, 8234 turns, killed by a watch captain on hardfought 12:19 FIQ: found out recently that currently the monsym lists are enums 12:19 monsym lists? 12:19 you mean S_ANGEL, etc? 12:19 yeah 12:20 oops broke my only wand of teleport 12:20 DIED: Katung (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 7355 points, 5302 turns, killed by an owlbear on altorg 12:20 stenno: changed defines into enums 12:20 who wants to bet that there'll be a reversion of these enums by PatR? 12:20 enum is an ANSI C feature 12:20 aosdict: if someone eventually tells him 12:20 that enums is an ANSI-ism 12:20 it will happen within the next day 12:20 I bet 12:20 I don't think pat actually knows 12:21 DIED: winny (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 254 points, 310 turns, killed by a grid bug on hardfought 12:21 this commit also conveniently broke my PR I sent to devteam literally yesterday :P 12:21 I guess that is a "we are not interested in your shitty code" 12:22 -!- mcnick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:22 someday nethack will be reimplemented in a higher level language :) 12:22 someday? try somedecade 12:22 I mean, even NH4 is still in C 12:22 it could mean some century 12:23 FIQhack updated 12:24 'joemaro │ don't kill me pls: how do i open a chest in vanilla 3.6? in fiqhack it's "a,"' heh, people playing fh who haven't even played vanilla 12:24 winny: what would it be reimplemented in 12:24 c++? python? 12:24 python i'd hope tbh 12:24 !tell NeroOneTrueKing @K2 │ FIQhack updated 12:24 Will do, FIQ! 12:24 thank you both! 12:24 NeroOneTrueKing: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 15:24 EDT: @K2 │ FIQhack updated 12:24 * aosdict hears the distant aneurysms of the devteam 12:25 no prob NeroOneTrueKing 12:25 sorry took so long 12:25 not really a fan of debugging segmentation faults let alone in an interactive terminal application 12:25 i ported a few functions regarding monster creation to javascript 12:26 Beholder feature request: doesn't repeat !tells if the person speaks up within a few minutes of the !tell being sent 12:26 (and was present in channel when it was sent) 12:27 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! spontiff accepted the Waldo challenge. 12:29 I disagree 12:29 what if the person is online merely with a bouncer or similar 12:29 or there's a lot of game bot spam inbetween 12:29 the !tell function stays as is 12:30 -!- katung has joined #hardfought 12:31 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 778 points, 2198 turns, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 12:41 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:42 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3249 points, 3594 turns, killed by a dingo on hardfought 12:47 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2146 points, 2414 turns, killed by a dingo on hardfought 12:50 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 388 points, 3569 turns, killed by a small mimic on hdf-eu 12:51 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57 DIED: spontiff (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 365 points, 839 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 13:02 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:38346 13:04 -!- joemaro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:38411 13:10 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! amateurhour accepted the Pool challenge. 13:11 NeroOneTrueKing: did you genocide a lot this game? 13:11 not much 13:11 I saw that you were welcomed by 2 Archons the moment you stepped into FIre lol 13:11 Liches, mimics 13:11 *Fire 13:11 Cockatrices 13:11 maybe some others? 13:11 ctrl+x g 13:11 gives a list 13:12 Elf mummies? Must have been a monster's doing 13:12 Yeah, probably 13:13 NeroOneTrueKing: nice RNG lol 13:13 It fits with the rest of my game :D 13:13 haha 13:13 inb4 you die on Astral 13:13 and RNG was merely just toying with you 13:13 DIED: amateurhour (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 263 points, 479 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 13:14 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 443 points, 937 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while praying on hdf-eu 13:14 NeroOneTrueKing: How did you die anyway? @ averted death 13:14 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! amateurhour accepted the Grue challenge. 13:14 fainted from lack of food because I was trying to cast too much. Oops! 13:14 ah 13:14 oops 13:14 -!- joemaro has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:15 "P.HAX.A." 13:15 ayy 13:16 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 13:17 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving named The Necklace of Overconfidence", on T:38562 13:17 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1596 points, 1919 turns, killed by a kitten on hdf-eu 13:17 Heh 13:18 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed potions of wonder", on T:38582 13:18 of course you got 3 potions 13:19 ASCENDED: stenno (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1152156 points, 17468 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/dn36/dumplog/1509560833.dn36.txt 13:19 wow 13:19 I don't have the sources open at the moment, what's that? 13:19 sickness res 13:19 TROPHY: stenno now holds the Lowest RealTime ascension and Lowest Turn-count Ascension 13:19 TROPHY: stenno just earned the Dilithium Star 13:19 how convenient right before astral 13:19 and leathery skin is acid res? 13:19 yes 13:19 lol 13:20 So I've gotten: reflection, sustain ability, protection from shape-changers, sickness res, acid res 13:20 NeroOneTrueKing: you are *deeply* in depth to the RNG 13:20 I wonder if it will wait to claim it until ascension though 13:20 and make your future games a living hell for a while 13:21 DIED: Katung (Arc-Gno-Mal-Neu), 839 points, 1725 turns, killed by a falling rock on altorg 13:21 sustain ability lol 13:21 mind flayer resistance 13:22 ASCENDED: firemonkey (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2130130 points, 33751 turns, ascended on hardfought https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/firemonkey/dn36/dumplog/1509545114.dn36.txt 13:22 to be continued... 13:22 Heh 13:23 No astral splat yet! 13:23 TROPHY: firemonkey just earned the Dilithium Star 13:24 (on this character. My first astral-reaching FIQHack character did astral-splat) 13:24 you've also died to Master Kaen 13:24 maybe the game felt sorry for you 13:25 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 10668 points, 6051 turns, killed by a mumak on hardfought 13:25 I take it that its a fiqhack feature to find the bones of your previous character of that role? 13:25 This game found the bones of the Master Kaen death 13:26 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3923 points, 2687 turns, killed by a gray unicorn on hardfought 13:28 DIED: amateurhour (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 584 points, 881 turns, killed by a little dog on hardfought 13:29 Bye for now! 13:30 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 13:31 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 200 points, 1900 turns, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu 13:31 grats stenno! 13:31 thx o7 13:32 raging at the asc run as usual 13:32 but overall a fine run 13:33 for the glory and honor of team shit 13:35 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:36 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 13:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 13:37 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 788 points, 1108 turns, killed by a dwarf on hardfought 13:40 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 171 points, 457 turns, killed by a boiling potion on hardfought 13:40 -!- nht has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41 DIED: spontiff (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 169 points, 1245 turns, eaten by a Grue on hdf-eu 13:41 Merging: n - 150 diluted potions of full healing. 13:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 13:45 You put 50 cursed diluted potions of gain level into the magic chest. 13:46 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51 DIED: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1670 points, 4678 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning on hdf-eu 13:54 DIED: tacco (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 307 points, 410 turns, killed by a bat on hdf-eu 13:54 DIED: Pkunk (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 350 points, 3695 turns, killed by a jackal, while helpless on hdf-eu 13:54 took me until Medusa, but I finally got reflection 13:55 NeroOneTrueKing: No, that's a vanilla feature 13:55 what FIQHack changes in regards to bones is the 33% to make a player monster and retaining trinsics/spells/etc 13:57 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! OtsMcGee completed the Pool challenge. 13:57 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:58 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Pkunk ignored the Pool challenge. 14:00 why? pool is the easiest challenge overall 14:00 oh well 14:00 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:01 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Client Quit] 14:03 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Pkunk ignored the Pac-Man challenge. 14:06 How do I kill Grazzt... 14:06 DIED: OtsMcGee (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 461 points, 888 turns, killed by an elven dagger on hardfought 14:14 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Pkunk ignored the Dig-Dug challenge. 14:15 DIED: larry (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 3723 points, 6073 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hardfought 14:16 TROPHY: larry now holds the Highest Scored Archeologist 14:20 DIED: firemonkey (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1767 points, 2890 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 14:20 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:22 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! amateurhour completed the Pool challenge. 14:24 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 14:27 -!- hpardis has quit [] 14:29 -!- noty has joined #hardfought 14:30 DIED: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 104 points, 406 turns, killed by a riding accident on hdf-eu 14:31 DIED: tacco (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 178 points, 770 turns, killed by a wand on hdf-eu 14:31 what cause of death lists as a riding accident 14:33 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "blessed fireproof greased +3 grayswandir", on T:56265 14:34 DIED: stenno (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6677 points, 5680 turns, killed by a troll on hdf-eu 14:34 lol, 2 wishes from grazzt so far 14:34 i dunno what on earth to ask for now 14:36 DIED: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 94 points, 378 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse on hdf-eu 14:37 DIED: amateurhour (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1324 points, 1561 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 14:38 [13dnh] porkman (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:56267 14:41 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 300 points, 4679 turns, killed by a djinni on hdf-eu 14:41 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 14:41 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 14:42 DIED: Pkunk (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 300 points, 4312 turns, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hdf-eu 14:42 DIED: spontiff (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 23 points, 51 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu 14:42 congrats stenno! 14:43 DIED: Pkunk (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 0 points, 70 turns, killed by a jackal on hdf-eu 14:44 CHALLENGE IGNORED! Pkunk ignored the Grue challenge. 14:45 DIED: tacco (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 572 points, 844 turns, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a potion on hdf-eu 14:47 DIED: Pkunk (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 139 points, 387 turns, killed by a jackal, while being frightened to death on hdf-eu 14:47 I don't know if I got lucky, just got grayswandir from grazzt. I think it's the 8th wished artifact or so? 14:48 -!- StinkyGreene has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:49 DIED: amateurhour (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 263 points, 333 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 14:51 !pom 14:51 raisse\splat: The moon is waxing gibbous; full moon in 1 day. 14:52 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Webmant accepted the Pool challenge. 14:56 thanks K2 14:56 -!- dave__ has joined #hardfought 14:56 -!- Porkman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 DIED: Pkunk (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 300 points, 1012 turns, killed by a sewer rat on hdf-eu 14:57 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 14:58 raisse\splat: I predict there will be a large influx of knights over the next two days 14:58 why? 14:59 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Webmant accepted the Grue challenge. 14:59 do knights depend on luck more than others? 15:01 make lances break less 15:02 oh right 15:02 with the improved full moon luck it's almost 1/10000 15:07 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 740 points, 3256 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 15:07 -!- bleeko has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] 15:09 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! noims accepted the ZAPM challenge. 15:12 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:12 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 15:14 -!- mcnick has joined #hardfought 15:14 DIED: davez (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 5250 points, 3968 turns, killed by a panther on hdf-eu 15:14 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1007 points, 983 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu 15:14 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! spontiff completed the Pool challenge. 15:14 TROPHY: davez now holds the Highest Scored Priest 15:18 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1190 points, 1761 turns, killed by a dog on hardfought 15:24 !rng play sleep 15:24 raisse\splat: play 15:25 plaaaaaaaaay 15:25 :D 15:25 should sleep soonish though 15:25 I just woke up and made coffee! 15:25 TeamSplat! never sleeps! 15:26 DIED: spontiff (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1290 points, 3994 turns, killed by a bugbear on hdf-eu 15:26 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0.2/20171024165158]] 15:27 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Webmant completed the Pool challenge. 15:27 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:28 DIED: firemonkey (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4271 points, 11249 turns, killed by a horse on hardfought 15:29 DIED: davez (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 913 points, 1741 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu 15:30 [10fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:36257 15:30 Grasshopper: I think you guys are probably distributed around the globe enough for that to be true 15:30 -!- whatever has joined #hardfought 15:31 DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 746 points, 1414 turns, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 15:31 but now I'm going to sleep 15:31 -!- whatever is now known as Guest61011 15:33 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Schnoub accepted the Pool challenge. 15:35 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Schnoub accepted the Waldo challenge. 15:37 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 15:37 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! oh6 completed the Pac-Man challenge. 15:37 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:38 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 10020 points, T:5625, killed by a rothe 15:40 DIED: davez (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1311 points, 1023 turns, killed by a dwarf, while praying on hdf-eu 15:41 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1552 points, 2501 turns, killed by a giant mimic on hardfought 15:47 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Law), 312 points, 565 turns, killed by a gnome on hardfought 15:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Schnoub accepted the Grue challenge. 15:51 DIED: Schnoub (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 191 points, 469 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 15:55 ais523: hi! I finished my earlier half-done work on removing duplicate female monsts, but there is still a minor problem I have 15:55 go on 15:55 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 07:29 EDT: isn't %.*s ANSI? 15:55 ais523: Message from FIQ at 2017-11-02 10:20 EDT: So I am trying to figure out how substitutions are applied, tiles-wise. I want to figure out what to change to make libnethack able to tell the engine about a monster's gender. Currently I can't even figure out how it gets the *player's* gender because all I see is some sanity checks 15:56 there is your "go on" ;) 15:56 basically 15:56 things work 15:56 also there was a debate in the devteam internally about whether %.*s worked on all the compilers/libcs we wanted to support 15:56 but atm succubi now use the incubus tile 15:56 also right now substitution tiles for monster gender don't work 15:56 result of that debate...? 15:56 they just use the player gender 15:56 because sub female doesn't work on monsters 15:57 ais523: exactly 15:57 aosdict: we don't know but presumably if something breaks for someone then they'll tell us 15:57 I wanted to figure out how the windowport gets that info in first place 15:57 I can't remember 15:57 to give me an idea of what I need to do 15:57 but I can't even find where it gets the *player* info 15:57 if I grep for LDM_GENDER 15:57 all I find is some sanity checks 15:57 DIED: firemonkey (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3186 points, 3045 turns, killed by a large cat on hardfought 15:57 DIED: zaga (Cav-Hum-Mal-Law), 716 points, 1006 turns, killed by a giant rat on hardfought 15:57 not how it actually sets up the substitutions 15:58 ais523: well if the devteam attitude is to allow ANSIisms until someone reports a breakage, that sounds like good news 15:58 paxed's been adding a bunch of enums 15:58 aosdict: I think the only ANSIism atm is enums 15:58 which has only really stayed around because, I assume, Pat doesn't actually know it is an ANSIism 15:58 I'd expect them to be less reliable than .* in a sprintf, because they require support from the compiler not just the library 15:59 well yeah but PatR has a recent commit that reverts some function calling convention to K&R 15:59 aosdict: exactly, and I don't see why he would keep enums 15:59 so I just assumed he didn't know 15:59 paxed was not amused at me describing it as a "cold war" :) 15:59 lol 16:00 aosdict: yeah I could totally see paxed not reacting well to that claim 16:00 since it is not really grounded in anything 16:00 FIQ: see the end of dbe_substitution in nethack/src/outchars.c 16:01 that's where it's getting the player gender substitution from 16:01 DIED: zaga (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 144 points, 237 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 16:01 ais523: btw, it is ok to ignore my PRs obviously, but just to check -- did my last report get stuck in spam filters (again)? 16:01 because it had some links 16:01 FIQ: you submitted a link to a pull request that you'd rehosted locally 16:01 I saw that one 16:01 if it's something else it got stuck 16:01 yeah, so we are good 16:01 just wanted to check, thanks 16:01 [10fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:37938 16:01 no need to reply or do anything with it 16:01 I'm going to leave it a bit to see if anyone reacts 16:01 just wanted to see if the filter approved of my links 16:01 mhm 16:02 if nobody does I might have to take a look at it myself 16:02 I *assume* paxed took a look because he shortly after made a commit that broke the patch 16:02 (the change itself is unrelated, but it touches a place the patch touches too) 16:02 (the prop enumification) 16:03 [10fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:37946 16:04 ais523: @dbe_substitution, I'll take a look, thanks 16:04 aosdict: how's your current dnt game going 16:04 slow 16:05 took forever to get the things I need 16:05 where are you at 16:05 FIQ: the reason it took me so long to find is that it's apparently taking a string from the UI and passing that to the tilesequence code, without mentioning the internal number of the substitution anywhere 16:05 long? it took you minutes :P 16:05 didn't get reflection till medusa, still no MR, working on getting holy water now, don't have fire resistance for the quest yet 16:05 but yeah, that explains why I was unable to find it 16:06 yeah i'm still on the top level of sokoban 16:06 i lost my large dog to a chameleon corpse in the mines 16:07 FIQ: if daniel_t had written that code rather than me, I'd be annoyed at him for it :-( 16:07 I am desperate enough to be alchemizing juice and speed to get booze to confuse myself to read this remove curse scroll to get holy water 16:07 * FIQ blames ais523 16:07 I'm happy with quite a bit of the NH4 tiles/asciitiles code but there are some bits I'm much more dubious about 16:07 yikes 16:07 StatueSurfer: also, no altars in the dungeon except a crossaligned temple in Minetown and another one in the Dungeons 16:07 one thing I dislike about it is that it has regressions 16:07 in comparision to NH3 16:08 i guess the rng decided to hate you 16:08 well, I know one regression 16:08 engulfing 16:08 DIED: zaga (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 749 points, 862 turns, killed by a boulder on hardfought 16:08 hopefully i'll get the "oReflection as my prize 16:08 I tried to fix that a while back but failed because I didn't really understand the system 16:08 at least I am level 14 and have got permission to go on the quest 16:09 ASCENDED: Tariru (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1903422 points, 37049 turns, ascended on hdf-eu https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tariru/dn36/dumplog/1509562343.dn36.txt 16:09 that's good 16:09 something I want to do some day 16:09 is to play a neutral knight with eota 16:09 TROPHY: Tariru now holds the Best Behaved Ascension and Highest Scored Tourist 16:09 TROPHY: Tariru just earned the Dilithium Star 16:09 -!- greqrg has joined #hardfought 16:09 mmm, watered down liquid fire 16:10 lol 16:10 like some water with your whiskey? 16:11 and my 10 waters now stack into 3, 4, and 3 16:11 i have a wand of lightning so i should be able to clear sokoban 16:12 what's your AC 16:12 aosdict, but you are playing 3, 6, 0? 16:12 Grasshopper: I hope not, that would mean I lost a potion 16:12 lol 16:12 [10fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached the Astral Plane, on T:38194 16:13 I heard a crunching sound then went to hunt the rock mole - damn thing ate all the gold in the vault 16:14 DIED: davez (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4794 points, 4258 turns, killed by a fire ant on hdf-eu 16:15 * aosdict identifies the holy water, powers up BoH, unihorn, luckstone 16:16 what's your AC 16:17 mine? 16:17 -6 16:17 you're a valkyrie right 16:17 -!- dave__ has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:17 yeah 16:18 i don't think that's low enough to fight lord surtur unless you've got a wand of death 16:18 well I do have some enchant armor scrolls 16:18 that I can now bless 16:19 do you have DSM yet 16:19 also I have cold wands 16:19 no 16:19 have seen no dragons except for a gnome-polymorphed one 16:25 StatueSurfer: I can take Surtur easy, got scare monster scrolls 16:26 But I was considering going crazy trying to find Ludios instead 16:26 alright fine then 16:26 do whatever you probably know better than me 16:26 FOUND WALDO 16:26 nice 16:27 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! aosdict completed the Waldo challenge. 16:27 "The former Waldo threatens you." 16:27 [10fh] MTF (mtf) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 279064 points, T:38325, ascended 16:27 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mtf/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-11-02%2023%3A27%3A38%2C%20MTF-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 16:28 nice, found ludios in under 5 minutes or so 16:29 cool 16:31 CHALLENGE IGNORED! micromoog ignored the Grue challenge. 16:34 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:41 DIED: Webmant (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2849 points, 4511 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 16:44 DIED: zaga (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1826 points, 3116 turns, killed by a garter snake, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 16:44 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 16:45 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached the Astral Plane, on T:39071 16:46 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! amateurhour completed the Grue challenge. 16:46 !lotg NeroOneTrueKing 16:46 May the Luck of the Grasshopper be with you always, NeroOneTrueKing! 16:48 DIED: Leggman (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2999 points, 3197 turns, killed by a fire ant on hardfought 16:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Webmant accepted the Pac-Man challenge. 16:51 "You feel more attuned to water." 16:51 That potion of wonder would have been more useful earlier 16:54 DIED: Webmant (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 461 points, 1208 turns, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 16:54 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:39193 16:55 NeroOneTrueKing: what's that message mean? 16:55 either intrinsic water walking or swimming, I think 16:57 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Leggman accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 17:02 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! mtf accepted the Pool challenge. 17:02 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Luna completed the Waldo challenge. 17:11 -!- Tariru has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Luna accepted the ZAPM challenge. 17:13 DIED: eitkrog (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 5986 points, 7252 turns, killed by a lizard on hardfought 17:17 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 96 points, 259 turns, killed by a goblin on hardfought 17:19 DIED: Leggman (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 305 points, 855 turns, killed by a wand on hardfought 17:28 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 636 points, 1729 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 17:33 DIED: eitbo (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3881 points, 5164 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 17:40 swimming yes 17:41 -!- bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:41 still gambling despite potential for slow or polymorphitis I see :P 17:42 NeroOneTrueKing: you could have chatted to it 17:42 to piss it off w/o losing alignment 17:42 DIED: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1441 points, 2423 turns, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 17:42 ah 17:43 I've murdered at least 2 things so far with my wand of death, what's annoying 1 more priest? 17:43 heh 17:44 are you going to die 17:44 despite all those wishes 17:44 hopefully not, but this isn't looking good 17:44 at least you haven't been cancelled 17:44 so far 17:45 your luck has run out 17:46 no praying? 17:46 you can do that on the astral? 17:47 yes, if you have <1/7HP 17:47 which you don't 17:47 atm 17:47 rip 17:47 now I do, alas 17:48 [10fh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 94735 points, T:39261, killed by a renegade priestess of Moloch (with the Amulet) 17:48 ouch :( 17:48 how many wishes 17:48 26, I think 17:49 The best gear + 3 pet archons was insufficient for the FIQHack astral 17:49 The best gear minus body armor, since I was a monk. 17:49 you could have used telewands, you know 17:49 or conflict 17:50 Conflict, yeah. 17:50 or more than 1 ful lhealing 17:50 *full healing 17:50 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! hjklyubn completed the Waldo challenge. 17:50 I had more, that I had used earlier 17:50 when famine and pestilence found their way to standing beside me 17:51 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Leggman accepted the Grue challenge. 17:51 ah 17:51 Should have brought/alchemized even more 17:51 NeroOneTrueKing: you know 17:51 MTF and I were discussing astral possibly being too easy... :P 17:51 And spent fewer wishes on "3 blessed potions of wonder" 17:52 I find FIQHack astral to be harder than vanilla (due to better AI and spellcasting) 17:53 -!- Glord has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:53 Especially thanks to no summon insects spell 17:55 heh 17:56 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! hjklyubn accepted the Joust challenge. 17:58 DIED: Leggman (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1784 points, 1515 turns, killed by a gray ooze on hardfought 18:02 -!- bleeko has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05 NeroOneTrueKing: I think I knwo why you splatted 18:05 You weren't using your qstaff as weapon 18:05 lol 18:06 That may have helped 18:06 leveldraining stays 18:06 for riders 18:06 (!) 18:07 That certainly would have been a good idea, then 18:07 I play to have fun 18:08 And that certainly was an entertaining game 18:08 :) 18:08 4 wands of wishing... 18:08 also not sure if you know 18:08 but glove enchantment boosts unarmed 18:08 in fiqhack 18:09 I did have enchanted gloves, at least. 18:09 yeah 18:09 Not that you can get "thirsty" on them :P 18:09 -!- Newt_ has joined #hardfought 18:12 DIED: krakra1729 (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1252 points, 4822 turns, killed by a rothe on hardfought 18:17 DIED: Leggman (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 219 points, 350 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 18:22 RIP nero 18:24 DIED: krakra1729 (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 306 points, 888 turns, killed by a fox on hardfought 18:31 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32 DIED: Webmant (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1162 points, 1979 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 18:44 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 4836 points, 5208 turns, killed by Mjollnir on hardfought 18:47 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! mtf completed the Pool challenge. 18:47 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:57 DIED: tacco (Ran-Elf-Fem-Law), 2958 points, 3019 turns, killed by a crocodile on hdf-eu 19:02 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1145 points, 1419 turns, killed by brainlessness on hardfought 19:02 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 8237 points, 6576 turns, killed by a leocrotta on hardfought 19:05 [08un] William (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 458 points, T:1002, killed by the ghost of Blinky 19:05 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! noims completed the ZAPM challenge. 19:05 ZAPM: noims the Major Activated the Bizarro Orgasmatron in the Mainframe at depth 16. [42879 points] 19:06 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:06 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 19:07 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 28 points, 104 turns, killed by a jackal on hardfought 19:07 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 58 points, 337 turns, killed by exhaustion on hardfought 19:13 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 255 points, 509 turns, killed by a kobold on hardfought 19:22 DIED: Glord (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 28277 points, 10411 turns, killed by a giant beetle, while paralyzed by a monster on hardfought 19:23 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23 TROPHY: Glord just earned the Lead Star 19:29 NetHack 3.6.1-dev updated 19:29 woo! let's go not find some gold 19:30 heh 19:33 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Disconnected] 19:34 DIED: bleeko (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 12176 points, 6418 turns, killed by a sergeant, while praying on hardfought 19:40 DIED: Eleven (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2668 points, 16113 turns, killed by a giant ant on hardfought 19:44 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 19:46 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! jackofclubs completed the Pac-Man challenge. 19:52 DIED: zaga (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 9672 points, 6474 turns, turned to slime by a green slime on hardfought 19:52 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has joined #hardfought 19:52 -!- Tarmunora__ has joined #hardfought 19:55 -!- Tarmunora_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:55 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:56 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 19:58 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 172 points, 344 turns, killed by a black pudding on hardfought 20:00 DIED: Eleven (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 143 points, 1180 turns, killed by an electric shock on hardfought 20:06 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Webmant accepted the Dig-Dug challenge. 20:06 DIED: jackofclubs (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 5994 points, 4744 turns, killed by an owlbear on hardfought 20:08 -!- StinkyGreene has joined #hardfought 20:11 -!- Glord has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:12 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3498 points, 3311 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 20:12 DIED: winny (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 648 points, 1290 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 20:14 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 264 points, 127 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome on hardfought 20:16 does the grue challenge affect starting equipment - e.g. oil lamp? 20:17 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 104 points, 231 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 20:19 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21 no 20:22 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5220 points, 3835 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 20:23 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 6504 points, T:3119, killed by a dwarf 20:27 How to enable turn count? 20:27 I dont seem to have it? 20:28 OPTIONS=time? 20:28 -!- bug_sniper_ has joined #hardfought 20:29 No dice 20:30 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1452 points, T:1081, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:32 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:33 K2, tangles\splat: also just got the "named object not in disco" thing after getting my brain eaten 20:34 aosdict: Is this happening in the devnull build? 20:34 yes 20:34 game crash? 20:34 no, it's an impossible() 20:34 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 680 points, 1238 turns, killed by a dwarvish spear on hardfought 20:34 hmm... ok 20:35 wow, +3 dwarvish cloak 20:37 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1054 points, 1244 turns, killed by an exploding crystal ball on hardfought 20:38 ah, nice unique deaths 20:38 -!- wanttoplay has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:38 -!- fatty has joined #hardfought 20:41 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 765 points, T:1091, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 20:42 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 511 points, 1139 turns, killed by a water moccasin on hardfought 20:43 -!- StatueSurfer has joined #hardfought 20:43 You feel the power of Thoth increase. The altar glows gray. 20:43 woot 20:43 will die in 3.. 2.. 1.. 20:44 hah helloooooo magicbane 20:46 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v oh6] by ChanServ 20:48 well 20:48 turns out there's an altar in the Dungeons of Doom after all 20:48 two floors below medusa 20:48 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry for my connection] 20:48 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 292 points, 933 turns, burned by a tower of flame on hardfought 20:48 in the castle right 20:48 :p 20:51 no, there's never an altar there 20:51 i know that 20:51 hence the ":p" 20:52 -!- Newt__ has joined #hardfought 20:53 -!- Newt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:54 DIED: Eleven (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 888 points, 3339 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 20:54 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 228 points, 616 turns, killed by a water elemental, while vomiting on hardfought 20:54 holy... a gremlin just stole from me, for what I think is the first time ever 20:55 -!- NeroOneTrueKing has joined #hardfought 20:55 what 20:55 and I lost poison resistance... right before the castle 20:55 is it nighttime where you are 20:55 &time 20:55 The time is 20:55:42(PDT) on Thursday, November 02, 2017 20:55 The time remaining until the 2017 Tournament closes is '00-00-28:03-04-18' 20:56 why are you fighting gremlins at night 20:56 i think once i saw a gremlin at night and i quit playing until the next day 20:56 * aosdict promptly triggers magic trap, generates a giant beetle, eats it, feels healthy 20:56 lucky 20:57 -!- NeroOneTrueKing_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:59 -!- katung has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:00 CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! k2 accepted the Grue challenge. 21:00 I backed out of the healer quest when a swarm of gremlins showed up, but I have the "light" spell now :) 21:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o tangles\splat] by K2 21:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [-o tangles\splat] by ChanServ 21:01 heh 21:02 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3719 points, 2302 turns, killed by a hill orc on hardfought 21:03 regaining poison resistance after the early game is a non-issue, really 21:04 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 110 points, 796 turns, killed by a wand, while sleeping on hardfought 21:04 other resistances, however... 21:04 DIED: wormy (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 304 points, 95 turns, killed by a soldier ant on hardfought 21:04 YANI: purple worms should not take so long to eat corpses. 21:04 I mean, they can eat most things in 1 turn, so... 21:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:04 I once spent a rather long time regaining poison resistance with a monk by polymorphing rings 21:05 "You fall into a pit! The pit was rigged with spikes! The spikes were poisoned! The poison was deadly..." 21:05 I believe I smunched them in gehennom doing something silly 21:05 wait wait not poison resistance, fire resistance 21:05 OK, standing down nethack for the night is the right decision, clearly 21:05 aosdict: when a pet eats a corpse, the corpse vanishes 21:07 a purple worm's engulfing attack isn't really an eating action - they don't seem to polymorph after engulfing shapechangers 21:07 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2676 points, 4475 turns, killed by a rabid rat on hardfought 21:07 hah wow 21:07 that was unexpected 21:09 I skated pretty close to losing my healer to some giants out of ludios, of all things 21:10 yess gray dragon scales 21:11 my game i just got teleport control 21:11 so now teleportitis is actually helpful 21:12 * aosdict finds gauntlets of power in the castle armory 21:13 i guess the rng's decided to make up for its earlier offenses against you 21:13 just watch out in Nom okay 21:13 "Asmodeus summons Demogorgon!" 21:13 I think he actually can't do that 21:14 Orcus might, though 21:14 -!- Guest61011 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 21:14 -!- Guest61011 has joined #hardfought 21:14 yeah orcus, juiblex, and yeenoghu 21:14 * StatueSurfer still feels some discomfort at talking about yeenoghu 21:15 why? 21:15 my best run ever was ended by yeenoghu 21:17 oh and now I should actually go get and use the WoW I suppose 21:17 DIED: micromoog (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 35421 points, 17437 turns, killed by a crocodile on hardfought 21:18 what are you gonna wish for 21:18 just magic markers? 21:18 no, my armor is hurting 21:18 TROPHY: micromoog just earned the Lead Star 21:18 I would also like to get another source of reflection besides this shield 21:18 oh 21:18 yeah good idea 21:19 the problem is I was gunning for SDSM and got GDSM instead, so guess I want an amulet 21:19 yeah my ideal get-up is SDSM, cloak of MR, and amulet of lifesaving 21:20 DIED: Luxidream (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 581 points, 805 turns, killed by a kobold zombie on hardfought 21:21 is there some way i can look at multiple pages of my discoveries list? 21:21 use > 21:22 thank you 21:22 i've gone my entire nethack career without knowing how to navigate those pages 21:22 an uncursed wand of wishing (0:1) 21:22 :( 21:23 the good thing is 21:23 I already have at least one charging scroll 21:25 honestly the optimal thing to do is probably wish for a wand of polymorph and go polypile stuff 21:25 but that's boring 21:25 i polypiled once 21:26 and got like a katana and hawaiian shirt out of the deal 21:26 I should at least clear the valley and let my two worms level themselves up on wraiths 21:29 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1458 points, 2481 turns, poisoned by a killer bee on hardfought 21:30 alright i just entered my quest home 21:32 i love how i can stand in plain view across a field 21:32 and the ogres don't come after me 21:36 purple rain in the valley of the dead is underrated 21:37 some nice broken level caps in there? 21:37 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3620 points, 2742 turns, killed by a Mordor orc on hardfought 21:40 wow, the valley first provided a credit card so I could open all the boxes, then it provided a stethoscope so I can check Rocky's and Blocky's health 21:42 okay i'm seriously going to need a tinning kit to do my quest 21:42 because i had to kill that one troll about 5 times 21:42 or Trollsbane? ;-) 21:42 before i could finally eat it 21:42 > Trollsbane 21:42 pls 21:43 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:6611 21:45 "The gnomish wizard points at you, then curses. You feel less confused now." 21:45 thanks gnomish wizard! :p 21:48 YANI: "Burrrrp!" wakes up monsters near it 21:50 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 43489 points, 3984 turns, killed by a shark on hardfought 21:54 [114k] sullysully (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14961 points, T:7535, killed by a white unicorn 21:55 DIED: StatueSurfer (Bar-Hum-Fem-Neu), 48088 points, 15658 turns, killed by an invisible golden naga on hardfought 21:55 sometimes i'm just like 21:55 screw this game 21:56 DIED: ninetale (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 181637 points, 15489 turns, killed by a jabberwock on altorg 21:56 shouldn't i have earned a lead star for that run 21:56 TROPHY: StatueSurfer just earned the Lead Star 21:56 there we go 21:58 i might genocide golden nagas on my next run 22:02 91432 gold pieces 22:02 where's my mini-croesus trophy 22:02 -!- TheGame20 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:07 DIED: Luxidream (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 774 points, 1847 turns, poisoned by an arrow on hardfought 22:09 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1743 points, 1951 turns, caught herself in her own burning oil on hardfought 22:18 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 406 points, 921 turns, killed by a water demon on hardfought 22:26 -!- StatueSurfer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:34 YASI: When a monster (or player) says "Burrrrp!", and there is a lawful monster capable of speech within 8 spaces, the lawful monster says "Say excuse me!" 22:35 if there are chaotic monsters within range, they cheer 22:40 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 2820 points, 3474 turns, killed by Izchak, the shopkeeper on hardfought 22:43 -!- raisse\splat has joined #hardfought 22:43 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse\splat] by ChanServ 22:44 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 22:48 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3370 points, 4583 turns, petrified by a cockatrice egg, while getting stoned on hardfought 22:49 DIED: mtf (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 433 points, 1650 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 22:53 -!- elenmirie\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:53 DIED: mtf (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 103 points, 371 turns, killed by a small mimic on hardfought 22:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 22:57 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 22:58 CHALLENGE COMPLETED! Raisse completed the Waldo challenge. 22:58 -!- elenmirie is now known as elenmirie\splat 23:08 Grasshopper: haha 23:09 DIED: fatty (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1160 points, 2070 turns, killed by a salamander on hardfought 23:09 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 802 points, 1054 turns, killed by a gnome lord on hardfought 23:10 DIED: mtf (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2707 points, 1592 turns, killed by a magic missile on hardfought 23:11 DIED: bebing (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 59 points, 300 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought 23:15 !time 23:15 Grasshopper: Fri Nov 3 02:15:03 2017 EDT 23:15 too bad you can't eat the grues and they can only eat you 23:37 -!- StatueSurfer_ has joined #hardfought 23:37 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 23:46 argh 23:46 a wraith dug through the floor in the soko corridor 23:47 but I've finished the level (except the zoo) so I'm not being sucked in 23:47 also I could read a scroll of earth without penalty 23:48 yes! escaped it 23:48 now it's a quick way down if I get mobbed 23:50 on dungeon level 24, below Medusa (22), and there is a fresh cockatrice corpse at my feet 23:50 I'm off to find the Castle! 23:50 argh sokobag 23:50 yay! 23:50 yay Grasshopper, I mean 23:50 not yay sokobag 23:52 heh 23:53 Grasshopper: make it rotproof :P