00:13 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- khoR_ has joined #hardfought 00:33 -!- khoR is now known as KhorZ 00:33 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:35 -!- khoR_ is now known as khoR 01:35 -!- nht has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:55 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 02:29 FIQ: I tried to write charging scroll and the game told me I dont know that scroll. But on the item discovery list it's there. :S 02:29 scroll called scroll of charging (DUAM XNAHT) 02:33 "called" 02:33 yeah but it says that with everything 02:33 I used charging before on markers 02:33 Aha. 02:33 Well, looks buggy. 02:33 its weird tho 02:34 yeah why does it say called 02:34 I wouldnt call earth "scroll of earth" 02:34 I would just call it earth 02:35 Yeah. 02:35 Something is defintely off. 02:35 And I'm 100% sure I havent called half of this items. 02:35 but some other scrolls are good 02:35 * khoR shakes fist at FIQ 02:35 Now im stuck and can't keep going because I need to set up for the late game and I need my marker for that. :( 02:36 Just wait for FIQ to fix it. 02:36 Yeah but I'm bored now! 02:36 Oh gosh. 02:36 You can play test devnull ;) 02:36 What is that? 02:36 devnull? 02:37 test devnull 02:37 I know that devnull is a tournament. 02:37 Yes, but devnull was retired. 02:37 And there's a "devnull tribute" tournament instead. 02:37 .-. 02:38 It will use the original challenges, but is ported into 3.6.0 02:38 And the surrounding infrastruture is completely new. 02:38 So testing is welcome. 02:39 I'm not good with challenges though. 02:39 As shown by all my splatted pacifists. 02:39 Challenges are not conducts. 02:39 You never played in devnull? 02:40 No, tournaments were always outside my nethack frenzies. 02:40 I only played junethack once and I didnt do that much. 02:40 Challenges are little minigames that unlock certain actions in NetHack. 02:41 Pac-Man, Waldo, Joust, ZAPM etc. 02:42 wat 02:42 pacman? 02:42 xD 02:42 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki//dev/null/nethack_tournament#Challenges 02:44 -!- Tokage has joined #hardfought 02:44 All right. 02:45 I have magic resistance, some very fancy dragonhide boots, good sources of both direct (Magic Missile) and indirect (Fireball, Cone of Cold) attack power, I can Identify and theoretically (with 1% odds) to map levels, and I successfully genocided beholders. 02:46 Oh, and my luck is nearly maxed out, granting me the ability to write unknown scrolls and spellbooks - though my magic marker's recharged once and nearly run out. 02:47 However, I'm lacking in reflection, I've got a limited amount of power, my armor class is barely in the negatives, and I'm extremely concerned by just how much damage the heavier hitters in this game can deal. 02:47 I've fucked up more promising games, in the far easier vanilla. We'll see where this goes. 02:47 Tokage: Is that GruntHack? 02:48 Yes. 02:48 Lack of reflection is quite serious thing. 02:48 HAve you cleared the castle? 02:49 No. I'm at floor 11. 02:49 Having managed to prepare this well this early on is a fairly good sign as well, I suppose. 02:50 I think down to Castle shouldn't be all that bad. 02:50 You're wizard? 02:51 http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/396/589/5fa.jpg 02:52 DIED: Khor (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 551 points, killed by a hobbit on hardfought 02:52 But I only wanted to see the pacman minigame. :c 02:52 Tokage: Too bad, I guess you can't sacrifice for weapons. 02:52 No, but I can get crowned for Finger of Death. 02:54 Also, I just got nearly killed by an elf with a wand of cold, resetting my prayer timeout, and then I fell into a trap door and three levels lower down. 02:54 Oh but I didnt get teleported 02:54 I need to find a magic portal or something? 02:54 And of course the wand ran out of charges. 02:54 Things are looking a bit down now. 02:55 khoR: Yes. 02:55 khoR: It's on the page I linked. 02:55 Not sure where pacman portal is. 02:55 A lot of things are in the page you linked. 02:55 :P 02:56 It's on Oracle level. 02:56 Yeah I sawnow. 02:56 I guess I'm not doing it then. 02:56 I just wanna ascend the priest. 02:56 * khoR throws stones at FIQ's window. 02:57 That's not very polite. 02:57 not like 02:57 big stones 02:57 small stones 02:57 like in old movies 02:57 you know 02:57 pebbles 02:57 I guess 03:00 Election day today... 03:01 * Mandevil waves the pirate flag 03:03 Can I vote for making politics illegal? 03:03 Here people are withdrawing the money from the banks just in case. 03:03 xD 03:04 Ow. 03:04 jonadab: Politics can't be avoided. 03:04 jonadab: Just like laws of nature cannot be avoided. 03:04 Are you trying to tell me politics is _natural_? 03:05 In a society, yes. 03:06 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) had gold spellbook bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:15590 03:13 I'm actually pretty scared 03:13 khoR: But not scared enough to flee to Canada? 03:14 Fuck's sakes. 03:14 A zombie just ate my brain and now I can't remember most of the levels and half my inventory. 03:15 Oh, and it got me ill. Good thing I had an eucalyptus leaf, but that's not going to work a second time. 03:16 * jonadab can imagine khoR moving to the Toronto area. 03:16 I have no idea where I would go to be honest. 03:18 Multiple choice: do you pick Prague, Paris, Tokyo, Toronto, Los Angeles, or Mexico City? 03:19 Or, heh, Norilsk. 03:22 I would probably enjoy tokyo but I don't think I could handle their work ethig 03:22 ethic 03:22 Indeed. 03:23 So that narrows down the list by one... 03:27 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) averted death, on T:17340 03:27 I can see why reflection is an issue. 03:27 Magic resistance doesn't protect from sleep? Come on. 03:28 * khoR wanted to ascend today 03:30 DIED: machinespray (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 6321 points, killed by a cobra, while frozen by a monster's gaze on hardfought 03:30 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:17470 03:30 khoR: So you're playing slex? 03:31 No 03:31 I'm playing BugHack 03:32 Im ready to enter gehennom but can't because charging scrolls are bugged 03:32 I know them and have even used them before 03:32 but it doesnt let me write them 03:32 so im sitting here with a marker and a wand of wishing to charge 03:33 and wasted charges on the marker too because I was suposed to be able to write charging but it didnt work 03:33 I guess I can go hoard more items 03:34 ... 03:34 nevermind 03:34 game crashed again 03:34 fuck this 03:35 FIQ: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6WiHhQbd/ 03:37 Does the Dark One have any new really nasty abilities, or can I take him on as I am now? 03:42 Not sure. 03:42 I think he's mostly unchanged. 03:42 But I haven't won a wizard. 03:43 I was wondering about all the dead mimics on this level, and then I found k2's ghost. 03:45 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) had vellum spellbook bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:18823 03:49 how long between prayers for it to be safe? 03:49 was it 1k turns´? 03:49 Much longer. 03:50 mmm 03:50 meh 03:50 khor: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Prayer_timeout 03:50 khoR: There are some probability plots at the bottom. 03:53 It uses the bizzare rnz() function. 03:54 BTW, that would be cool if someone came up with something more sane. 03:54 Being blinded and surrounded by monsters on lvl 1 03:54 is such a balanced trap 03:54 K2, why did you leave all your good gear so far away from where you died? 03:54 oh fucking hell 03:54 why do I get ALL thebones 03:55 Tokage: Teleport? 03:55 I have yet to play a single game of FIQH without bones 03:55 khoR: Complaining about getting free gear? 03:55 * for some definitions of "free" 03:55 It feels like cheating. 03:56 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance and reflection", on T:19486 03:56 Tokage: Castle? Or some random wish? 03:56 Now we're talking. 03:56 Random wish. 03:56 K2's bones contained all this good shit in a pile far away from where he actually died. 03:56 Including an amulet of life saving. 03:56 I'd love to hear the circumstances behind this death. 03:57 This dog runs away instead of fighting 03:57 soannoying 03:58 what 03:58 is it wounded? 03:58 in fiqhack you dont start learning the spells from your spellbooks 03:58 oh my god... 03:58 well rip my dog 03:58 and my pacifist run I guess 03:58 khoR: Why are you trying pacifist? 03:59 Because I can't play my non pacifist game and it's something I have pending for a long time. 03:59 I have that pending for years :) 03:59 "The incubus smiles at the orcish zombie seductively." 03:59 Gross, man. 04:00 Hehe. 04:00 its ok 04:00 I can just run the whole game without pets right? 04:00 What could go wrong? 04:00 oh hey 04:00 another bones level 04:00 what a surprise 04:01 * khoR deactivates bones on the option file 04:01 and with a panther 04:01 of course 04:01 why not 04:01 fffffffffffffffffffffjkshcgjlhsfjlghsdjkfg 04:01 [10fh] Frisk (Khor) (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 21591 points, T:1607, killed by a panther 04:03 Did you try to pet the panther? 04:05 looks like the panther got him 04:10 khoR: !bones 04:13 Yeah I turned bones off 04:13 a bones level every now and then is cool 04:13 but this many is just... 04:13 Specially with how other players seem to butcher the levels. 04:18 Anhur, please stop sending incubi at my end. I am a guy. 04:31 Oh, great, I got my brain eaten again. 04:31 khoR: object detection? 04:31 Nevermind that my armor class is now -23, no, fuck that.- 04:31 Zombies don't give a fuck. 04:32 if so, I did tell you that the server version was outdated 04:32 So I just have to #quit my perfectly ascendable game? 04:32 I cant write charging scrolls either. 04:32 also regarding markers 04:32 :\ 04:32 it's working as intended 04:32 something gave you amnesia 04:33 wat 04:33 you need to formally know the ID to write it 04:33 pff 04:33 khoR: no? 04:33 just because K2 hasn't updated yet doesn't mean that you need to quit 04:35 Oh, I understood it as my save not benig up to date. 04:36 but i can still write charging out of luck right? 04:38 khoR: luck doesn't determine whether or not yo u can write charging 04:38 XL does + potential priest bonus 04:38 once you do successfully write a scroll however, in FIQHack, it is formally IDed 04:40 Not ingame luck 04:40 but luck as in 04:40 universal concept 04:40 xD 04:40 like 04:41 if I try to write and I have a 33% chance 04:41 and I get it 04:41 I was "lucky" 04:42 F - a blessed scroll of charging. 04:42 I was lucky 04:42 º3º 04:42 nice :) 04:43 [10fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed orb of detection", on T:20495 04:43 wat 04:43 why was I blasted 04:43 I thought I was lawful 04:44 That's a quest artifact. 04:44 So it's cross-aligned unless you are an Arc. 04:44 You still get blasted if you're not an archeologist. 04:44 :| 04:44 Being of the same alignment just means you can pick it up and use it at all. 04:44 That's vanilla behavior. 04:44 I can't keep up with all the special cases in this kurwa game 04:44 Do I still get the magic resistance and half spell damage when carrying it? 04:45 Oh, the special cases aren't the tricky part in NetHack. It's all the _exceptions_ to the special cases you have to worry about. 04:45 xDDD 04:45 [10fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of life saving", on T:20496 04:46 does the orb still give me mr and half spell damage tho? 04:46 if so im gonna go down again and grab those yellow dragon scales 04:47 I _think_ so, but I am not _fully_ up to date on FIQHack changes. 04:47 Does the orb even *give* MR? 04:47 Is there a reason you didn't wish for the magic mirror of merlin 04:48 FIQ: In 3.4, it gives ESP, MR, and half spell damage when carried. 04:48 So it's just a question of whether FIQHack changes it. 04:48 well 04:48 why have telepathy and magic resistance 04:48 when I can have telepathy, magic resistance and half spell damage 04:48 jonadab: Well 04:48 It doesn't 04:49 So it still confers them 04:49 khoR: Depends how much you care about carry cap. 04:49 I care 0 04:49 khoR: Well the mirror weights like 5 04:49 ^ 04:49 compared to the orb's 150 04:49 Sure 04:49 look at my dnh ascensions 04:49 how many of them are with the heaviest armor in the game 04:49 Sorry, it weights 13 04:49 the mirror that is 04:54 !tell K2 +Beholder │ K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-19 10:19 EDT: FIQHack updated 04:54 Will do, FIQ! 04:55 khoR: you can quiver spells in FIQHack 04:55 I have force bolt on quiver 04:55 ah 04:55 just figured I'd point it out due to your use of dig 04:55 you can also map keys to "castalias" if you have any free 04:55 wat 04:55 which allows you to have several keys mapped to spells 04:56 khoR: as in 04:56 if there is keys you don't use 04:56 that you want to map to spells 04:56 you can map them to "castalias" in options -> interface options -> keymap 04:57 hm 04:57 ok 04:57 I wonder where those scales are tho 04:57 :| 04:57 it would be cool if there was a find item spell 04:58 detect treasure? 04:58 or ctrl+f 04:58 but that shows me all the items 04:58 im looking for yellow dragon scales 04:58 so... ctrl+f? 04:58 do ctrl+f 04:58 search for yellow dragon scales 04:59 khoR: do you even know ctrl+f is a thing 04:59 oh lol 04:59 I didnt know this 04:59 loool 04:59 it's a FIQHack feature 04:59 10/10 04:59 I think it would bebetter in spell form but watev 05:00 why should UI convenience be a spell? 05:00 well 05:00 I don't know if my english is good enough to answer that 05:00 but not remembering where you left something or being able to see it at first sight is not really a ui issue or a downside of the medium the game is on 05:00 in real life, it happens too 05:01 and if you leave a pile of stuff some place 05:01 I see what you mean 05:01 and the thing you are looking for is under that 05:01 you wouldnt be able to see it either 05:01 but it violates the Interhack principe 05:01 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 so it seems kind of "magical" to be able to know where it is like that 05:01 I dont know what interhack is 05:02 the Interhack principe -- any kind of challenge/difficulty/etc that can be abstracted away by taking notes or playing an UI enhancer like Interhack 05:02 is not a real challenge/difficulty 05:02 for example, amnesia removing knowledge of maps or items 05:03 I don't agree with that 05:03 sure 05:03 buy I understand people that disagree with em 05:03 that's an opinio though :P 05:03 me 05:03 :) 05:03 yeah exactly 05:03 yeah 05:03 I have the samme issue with hearthstone 05:03 *opinion 05:04 they say that everything that gives you information that you could keep on a notebook is not a cheat 05:04 so theres software to help you play 05:04 exactly 05:04 same thing 05:04 that keeps track of cardsin your deck, or your oponent 05:04 mhm 05:04 plays that are played 05:04 what turn cards in your oponent hand were drawn 05:04 all sort of stuff like that 05:04 which is such an unfair advantage over someone whod oesnt have it 05:04 even tho you could keep track of it on a notebook 05:05 it takes a way such a big part of the skillset needed for card games 05:05 It even gives you % on how lickely it is to draw a ceratin card 05:05 certain* 05:05 pretty sure even some RL card games like MTG allows you to take notes of what you have in your deck and stuff? 05:05 same thing 05:05 Yes 05:06 But having that automatically... 05:06 You wouldnt be able to keep up with so much information. 05:06 On a notebook. 05:06 no different, just less tedious 05:09 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:24980 05:09 He was resistant to magic so I had to poke him to death with Magicbane. 05:10 What kind of a wizard duel was that supposed to be? 05:10 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:24983 05:12 -!- K2-webirc has joined #hardfought 05:12 Hey K2. What was up with that pile of great treasure, including an amulet of life saving, so far away from your actual dead body? 05:12 It feels like there's a story there. 05:14 blasting with fireball/cone of cold is more fun 05:14 Tokage: to answer your question from earlier about my bones in grunthack - sometimes if I have a game that's going badly and I don't feel it's worth salvaging, if I have time I'll drop all my gear in a pile, move away from it and let myself get killed 05:14 hah i was typing before i saw your msg ;) 05:15 so that way the pile isnt cursed 05:15 Well, thanks I guess. 05:15 and myself or another player has a chance to find some decent loot 05:15 yup 05:15 Although if I had a magic lamp, I wouldn't say a game was going poorly. 05:15 CHEATS! 05:15 BANNED! 05:15 hah 05:15 * K2-webirc bans himself 05:15 * khoR keeps !bones 05:16 Tokage: i probably didnt know what most of my gear was 05:17 This was on level 13. You could've long since price-IDd it at Izthak. 05:17 You've no excuses. 05:17 ahahah 05:18 you're welcome 05:20 FIQ: how about this having to press enter an extra time everytime I do anything involving inventory letters' 05:20 is pretty annoying 05:21 and even if my window is small, should be standard size for nh 05:22 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of brilliance and drain resistance", on T:25502 05:23 Oh boy. 05:23 I got TWO genies from two potions of extra healing, in a row! 05:24 nice 05:24 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity and power", on T:25518 05:24 Try and stop me NOW, grunt! 05:25 dont jinx it :) 05:25 I've still got Demogorgon to deal with. He worries me. 05:27 khoR: "standard size" 05:27 with that said, I agree that it's kinda bad 05:28 jonadab: what is nethacks standard size? 05:29 [10fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed partly eaten magic marker", on T:21512 05:34 khoR: 80x24 i thought 05:34 EXACTLY 05:34 FUCK 05:34 +4 05:34 KURWA ENCHANT ARMOR 05:36 [10fh] Khor (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten magic marker", on T:21626 05:41 +4 armor makes me irattionally angry 05:41 +4 is good 05:41 I have two +4s. 05:42 +4 is literally the worst 05:42 hitler was better than +4 armor 05:43 p - a blessed greased fireproof +4 robe (being worn) {8} 05:43 * khoR flips his table 05:44 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:26810 05:45 I did? 05:45 He was right on the other side of the room. All I did was wear a ring of conflict. 05:48 you made it possible for him to be killed :-) 05:50 ok I'm ready for gehennom next week 05:50 oh wait 05:51 I still have to see if I can get more maxhp 05:51 yeah I can a bit 05:51 like maybe 50 more 05:52 khoR: MZ_MEDIUM which is also MZ_HUMAN ? 05:53 ? 05:53 khoR > jonadab: what is nethacks standard size? 05:53 * khoR facepalms 05:55 lol 05:56 !tell ais523 can you change the devnull_nethack topic to point to https://www.hardfought.org/devnull/ please? 05:56