00:00 Exactly 14 days to devnull Tribute tournament now. 00:00 huh, Grunthack apparently has an elven high priest of Moloch on the sanctum... somehow I expected to see an elder priest there, considering grunt is the evil variant :P 00:00 I forgot about tariru 00:00 It's the guy that enjoyed destroyed dnh and not communicating with us right? :P 00:00 Destroyed dnh? 00:01 Mandevil: stenno was talking to Tariru in #nethack the other day. He sounded keen to play in the tournament. 00:01 Tangles: Cool. 00:02 I also noticed nht doing some play-testing earlier, so I guess he's in. Should be a good contest :) 00:02 holy shit, grunthack's water elementals are absolute motherfuckers... how the hell do you handle the plane of water?! 00:03 LarienTelrunya: Not fighting them? Using magical breathing? 00:03 LarienTelrunya: Polymorphing into a vampire? 00:03 conflict, and a tooled horn. 00:03 Mandevil: Destroyed as in... I don't know how to translate it. 00:03 Mandevil: well there's the plane of water, where you have about 25 superpowered water elementals 00:03 Like totally owning it? ;-) 00:04 yeah 00:04 in the good way, not in the bad one 00:04 LarienTelrunya: Dunno, I won Grunt only once and I didn't have much trouble. 00:05 well I never won it, I just fooled around in wizmode to find out how evil it is 00:05 EPI: The November tournament should use Grunt :) 00:05 haha 00:06 also the suffocation instakills you in 3 turns, this is even faster than an amulet of strangulation! 00:08 I'd say gelcubes are even worse since they paralyze you if you try to fight while they are suffocating you. 00:08 And then there are beholders. 00:08 Who are really WTF kind of monster. 00:09 @g?beholder 00:09 hmm, still doesn't work 00:09 apparently the pinobot instance is down :( 00:10 @v?newt 00:10 newt (08,01:) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Attacks: 1d2 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious 00:10 @g?beholder 00:10 beholder (07,01e) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 2d4 gaze cancellation, 2d4 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravisible 00:11 yay it works again 00:11 @le?air elemental speed beholder 00:11 air elemental speed beholder (07,01e) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 36 | Res: cold | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 2d4 gaze cancellation, 2d4 bite physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravisible 00:14 ugh I'm gonna die :c 00:22 This demon lord monster thingy doesnt wanna to come kill me. :( 00:25 Ugh this guy is SO annoying. 00:27 Yay, he ded. :D 00:27 This bot doesn't call my glorious achievements though. :( 00:34 Oh hey, I found my stash. 00:34 Good old sokoban. 00:58 FIQ: There is something weird going on with tombstones and altars 01:04 -!- remirol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04 -!- workimer has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 01:05 khoR_: FIQHack altars are supposed to be color-coded by alignment now. 01:13 Well something is off. 01:13 When I enter a level with tombs they appear like altars 01:13 Ah. 01:13 and when I go to the room and get line of sight on them they change to tombstones again 01:13 I wonder if he forgot to edit one of the arrays. 01:13 There's like six things you have to change when you add a terrain. 01:13 But that might only be because it's a save mid change? 01:13 Maybe he missed out one. 01:13 Oh, that's also possible. 01:18 I have it on replay 01:18 hang on 01:19 how do I see replays again? 01:19 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FCIqt5qo/ 01:21 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lSfqviCq/ 01:22 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 01:22 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3ZBzbPm6/ 01:26 [07nd] Raisse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:22087 01:26 *whew* 01:26 I was getting a bit fed up with stashing and backtracking 01:48 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:49 -!- xabicalbo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 01:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v elenmirie] by ChanServ 02:03 I would need boh to give me 1/16 of the weight of items to not need stashes. 02:10 do I need to actually pick up the soko prize in order for Rodney to say I've finished it? even if I don't want it? 02:10 [07nd] Raisse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:28002 02:11 yes. 02:15 khoR_: If BoH gave 1/16 weight, I would still have a stash. 02:15 Though I wouldn't need to make _nearly_ as many trips to it. 02:17 * LarienTelrunya rarely, if ever, needs a stash in slex 02:20 I did 02:20 because I always ran out of letters 02:21 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:21 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 02:22 What the hell is a potion of wonder? 02:24 Will give a random intrinsic permanently (blessed/uncursed)/remove one instead (cursed) 02:24 Sounds balanced 02:24 :v 02:28 19 holy water 02:28 great success! 02:28 The balance is in the fact that you can't control what intrinsic you get. 02:29 It's random, and some of them are dangerous. 02:29 You feel a little strange... 02:29 I dont know what I got 02:30 maybe stealth 02:31 now I just have to blank all my scrollsand im ready to power up 02:33 -!- Tokage has joined #hardfought 02:33 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Howitzer 02:34 Who else can never resist doing that from the beginning, no matter the risks and the drawbacks? 02:34 Or is it just me? 02:34 no, also me 02:34 o/ 02:35 Tokage: I have something for you. https://app.box.com/s/t8r0wy25vsgwtcqap3lfeo87gfgvr1am - Grunthack compiled for Windows! 02:35 Oh boy. 02:35 Download, copy the contents of the zip folder to any place you like, run grunthack.exe, enjoy :) 02:37 jonadab: Can you remind me how to enchant weapons and armor? 02:37 I dont wanna vaporize anything 02:37 It's so fast! And shift-running works! 02:37 :) 02:37 And all the ALT- and CTRL-commands! 02:38 there were a few minor errors when compiling that I had to iron out; on the whole it should work fine though 02:41 khoR_: you wield (or wear) only the item you want to enchant, and read a (usually blessed) scroll of enchant the relevant thing. 02:41 Yeah what worries me is the thresholds 02:41 like at what point it becomes unsafe 02:41 Weapons and elven armor are safe to enchant at +5 or lower, most other armor at +3 or lower. 02:41 Man, playing this thing back-to-back with the server just shows how slow it is to play online. 02:42 jonadab: ty <3 02:43 LarienTelrunya: How'd you deal with the posix regex issue? 02:43 J - a blessed greased +5 blue dragon scale mail (being worn) 02:43 :D 02:44 One little hiccup - there seem to be no letters visible in the menus or the loot or anywhere. 02:44 So I need to guess which item was which. 02:44 jonadab: don't remember, actually 02:44 (Tell me you didn't compile slex, rename it to grunthack.exe, and give it to him.) 02:45 xDDD 02:45 Tokage: hmm, that's weird... happens on mine too, I should look into it 02:46 wtf, in the menus it doesn't show the letters either 02:46 might be because of the tcap.h thing 02:49 hm, or it might actually be due to the regex thing :( 02:50 ah, now I remember, I undefined MENU_COLOR_REGEX in config.h to "fix" it, I guess that's what broke the letters 02:51 the weird thing is that slex has USE_REGEX_MATCH instead, so I can't just copy that code over :/ 02:52 problem is, the grunthack thing apparently requires regex.h 02:56 Bugger. 02:57 gah, do I have to edit wintty.c to include regex.h??? how... annoying 02:57 How do I turn healing potions into extra healing potions? 02:57 speed' 02:57 ?* 02:58 Speed. 02:58 Unless you're playing some variant I don't know of that changes it. 02:58 worked 02:58 :D 02:58 and extra into full? 02:58 gain ability or level? 02:58 Gain energy. 02:58 oh shit 02:58 Or gain level, but those are useful on their own. 02:58 I dont have any of those 02:59 meh, I dont like to gain levels 03:00 alright, this game just became waaaaay easier 03:00 thank you :3 03:02 HRRRRRRGH, apparently I'd have to install the complete posix regex library if I want to compile this thing with regex??? 03:02 Well, yes, that would make sense. Good luck getting THAT to work on Windows.\ 03:03 yes, the whole whooping 1 MB package 03:03 ... but regular expressions work in slex, which I also compiled for windows and which doesn't need such a huge-ass library! 03:03 Oh? 03:03 What regex library did you use? 03:03 are you sure it's real regexpes? 03:03 As opposed to, what, wildcard globs? 03:04 aww this stupid marker is dry 03:04 thanks a lot horaxxa >_> 03:04 oh, I was wrong, slex is special-cased to only use regex.h on unix 03:04 so on windows it does not work :P 03:05 well im stupid op now anyway 03:05 im lacking some rings though 03:06 hmm, I think I can make a workaround though 03:07 Should be possible to make GruntHack not depend on regex support on Windows. 03:07 jonadab: yes, the build in glob code 03:09 is FIQ arround? 03:09 I could show him his bug nwo 03:09 now 03:10 He's probably asleep still. 03:10 He's been going to bed late the last few days. 03:10 And by late I mean late by my timezone here. 03:11 One thing I haven't seen any Nethack version do is to make enemies angry if they see me eat one of their own kind. 03:11 uhh 03:11 thats a nice idea 03:11 You'd think those gnomes would be a bit mad to interrupt me in front of their butchered friend. 03:11 gnomes don't have friends 03:12 Some go berserk, others run away or get stunned. 03:15 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1048 points, T:807, killed by a gnomish wererat 03:16 Hmm. So Grunthack somehow doesn't want to put a "selector" on the menu items. 03:16 ok jonadab 03:16 are you watching? 03:16 I can show you instead 03:16 I've managed to make it so that the items are prefixed with - now... but they should actually be prefixed with a, b, c etc. in inventory view! 03:18 Indeed. 03:24 oh, apparently this is a windows-specific bug 03:24 the slex source code even specifically states "because WIN32CON this must be done in a brain-dead way"... 03:26 YES! the brain-dead way of slex makes it work! 03:26 time to update the zip archive! 03:28 Tokage: zip archive updated! if you download it again, the menu items should show a, b, c etc. now! 03:29 I know that nothing leaves a corpse on the rogue level, but apparently unicorns don't leave horns either! 03:29 fortunately I already have one 03:29 Hmmmmmmmmmm. Now I'm wondering, does the brain-dead implementation enable menu glyphs? would be nice to get them to work on windows too 03:31 I mean, if the implementation works for the menu selectors, it should work for the menu glyphs too if the relevant function is adjusted... 03:31 I implemented menu glyphs only for the unix tty IIRC 03:32 Works great now. Thanks. 03:32 None of the colors for weapon skills or spells work, though. 03:32 Tokage: yeah, unfortunately it just would not compile with menu colors due to the regex thing, sorry :( 03:33 It's fine - it's a minor hiccup. 03:33 Hopefully we'll get them all in eventually, though. 03:34 bhaak: It works on windows (just tested)!!! and it's very easy to do, too! all it takes is the brain-dead slex code :D 03:35 proof screenshot: https://abload.de/img/braindeadmenuglyphs2aa44.png 03:35 [07nd] Raisse (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32435 03:36 I'm wondering if I should do the same for Grunthack, actually 03:37 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law) had lance bestowed upon him by Lugh, on T:893 03:42 When an enemy attack is narrowly stopped by a piece of armor, is it just fluff - to show that the armor class matters - or a legitimate new mechanic? 03:43 it means that if your AC had been one point worse, it would have been a hit 03:43 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law), 771 points, T:1491, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Howitzer 03:44 Also, I discovered a bug. 03:44 I couldn't ride my pony downstairs because he's "still eating" - even though I haven't seen him eat anything at all from the ground, and even though it's been hundreds of turns! 03:44 I could, however, ride him upstairs. 03:44 I'm pretty sure that should not be. 03:48 yeah that sounds weird; can't seem to reproduce that in wizmode though 03:52 That's in the server version, just to be clear. 03:52 It started to happen right after I got that lance gift. 04:02 Ahh... Tokage / LarienTelrunya: I see you two got acquainted :) 04:04 Thanks again LarienTelrunya. I would not even know how to begin making a tool-chain to get a nethack variant built on Windows, but I guess you already had most of it in place for slex. 04:05 heh indeed, I use mingw-32 and just followed the instructions in sys/winnt/install.nt, and then had to fix about half a dozen compile errors but now it works 04:05 sweet! 04:06 LarienTelrunya thanks for the gh windows compile ;) 04:06 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-17 21:20 EDT: some more fixes, the fuzzer seems to be able to r un for quite a while now without finding anything 04:07 :) 04:07 FIQhack updated 04:07 Tangles: I'm going the cygwin route for win32 builds. doing any command line stuff with the builtin stuff is masochistic but that's why LarienTelrunya is able to do it 04:08 LarienTelrunya: when you have a minute would you be able to contribute the changes you made back? 04:08 uhh, I guess for that I need to clone the repo and then commit the changes I made 04:09 also those changes will be unsorted and some of them might be silly or could probably be done in a better way 04:09 especially the menucolors stuff, there must be a way to make it work on windows, rather than butchering it 04:09 It depends how big. If it's just one or two files you could patebin them or something. 04:10 you can diff it and pastebin it. so we can have a look at it and judge if there is still hope for you as coder 04:11 It's totally cool if you'd rather not, too. 04:11 heh, I'll clone the repo and then commit my changes 04:11 should only take a few minutes anyway 04:12 Thanks Amy :) 04:14 gaaaaaaaaah it's not working :( 04:15 Tokage: a little bit of background... LarienTelrunya is the developer of Slash'EM Extended (aka SLEX), which is hands-down the most batshit insane variant of Nethack you will ever play. You should definitely give it a try :D 04:15 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law), 32 points, T:58, killed by a kobold wererat 04:17 -!- card.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ /dev/null/nethack tribute tournament news update - https://redd.it/75me9m 04:19 https://github.com/AmyBSOD/GruntHack/commit/ed209a4513b6243707ed5103487bc31e7416f7ee 04:20 awesome :D 04:21 \o/ 04:21 can you test whether it compiles for you as well? 04:21 ugh perl script is dying, but i have to go to work 04:21 bbl 04:23 also I can second the notion that slex is worth a try; it is based on regular slashem, but it's basically a completely different game (I wouldn't want to play regular slashem anymore, now that I got slex) 04:24 DIED: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 5146 points, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted soldier ant on hdf-eu 04:26 * jonadab can confirm that slex is a completely different game. 04:27 LarienTelrunya: I'm just having a read through. I'll merge and compile-test it shortly. 04:27 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27 oh dear lord 04:27 this quest is terrible 04:29 "The weapon hits you." 04:29 wat xD 04:33 ok i have 5 min to fix' 04:33 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:1554 04:35 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ /dev/null/nethack tribute tournament news update - https://redd.it/75me9m 04:39 -!- weber.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ - public irc logs available on website ¤ Public NetHack server - ssh nethack@hardfought.org ¤ /dev/null/nethack tribute tournament news update - https://redd.it/75me9m 04:41 fixed 04:41 bye :P 04:43 LarienTelrunya: it builds! :) 04:46 yay! great! does it run too? 04:47 I'm just looking... I kind of expected hilite stairs/piles to break... and it does. 04:47 but I can replace that section you commented out with some #ifdefs. 04:48 should I be worried about a magenta h with an underscore? 04:50 khoR_: I want to say... yes. 04:52 wat 04:52 this map seems unusually thin 04:52 it has like 20 tiles wide less than usual 04:57 [07nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4618 05:22 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Hum Mal Law), 11207 points, T:7167, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 05:26 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:28 [06nh4] TKirby (tkirby) (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 33064 points, T:2279, killed by a gnome lord 05:31 -!- Tokage has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:39 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Raisse suddenly disappears!] 05:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 05:44 !tell LarienTelrunya I had to revert a couple of your changes to get menucolors working again. Might have to have a better look at why that's broken next time we need a Windows build. 05:44 Will do, Tangles! 05:58 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:59 -!- Mandevil has joined #hardfought 05:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Mandevil] by ChanServ 06:12 -!- Tokage has joined #hardfought 06:22 [07nd] Raisse (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 155262 points, T:32854, killed by a minotaur 06:22 argh my wand of sleep was empty 06:22 and I was wearing a shield of reflection so I had healing at 30% fail or so 06:22 but best healer run in ages 06:22 between medusa and caslte 06:32 Good job reaching that deep into the dungeon raisse :D 06:38 DIED: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2376 points, killed by a dwarf on hdf-eu 06:40 khoR_: ;-p 06:41 khoR_: 06:41 [15:41] !lg . -count won role=healer 06:41 [15:41] raisse: That query has 7 matches. 06:41 I *can* do it 06:41 but all of those were 3.4.3 06:42 (also had the healer highscore in devnull once, until berry maxinted me) 06:43 lol 06:43 your score got berry'd... so to speak. 06:43 yep 06:50 I wonder how many I have. 06:51 3 healers 06:51 All 3.4.3 too 06:52 Apparently I ascended all roles. :D 06:59 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 25 points, T:136, killed by a gecko 07:03 jonadab: you know how there's a priest in the Cav quest home? Did you change his lines to monosyllables as well? 07:04 Aww, polymorphs are no longer permanent. 07:04 khoR_: yes I am 07:04 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 249 points, T:359, killed by a goblin 07:06 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 250 points, T:353, killed by a sewer rat, while landing from a jump 07:07 mmm luckstones 07:07 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 24 points, T:42, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 07:08 This luckstone tastes delicious! 07:09 YANI: when rock-eating is implemented (Yabba-dabba delicious! and so on), eating a luckstone gives you +1 Luck. 07:11 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12 oh 07:12 khoR_: yeah it's due to a save mid-change 07:12 I forgot to do a save revision change when changing altars 07:12 so saves made in the interim wil have weird altars/etc 07:12 sorry about that 07:13 It's ok, nothing game breaking. 07:13 (I later on fixed it, but if you made a save before I fixed it but after the altar change, you see that) 07:13 Just a letdown everyime I think I have an altar in the level. ;( 07:14 heh 07:17 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had gold spellbook bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2067 07:17 -!- ri-corpse-san has joined #hardfought 07:18 Oh, Create Monster. 07:18 Useful for this. 07:19 Hmm I only have one nao healer, and that's on 3.4.3 as well. 07:19 Beholder: learn to grammar 07:19 lol FIQ That's been like that for ages. 07:20 lol Thoth hands you the means to make more dead monsters for him. 07:21 FIQ: We're using the wrong xname() or whatever in the livelog, because the code came from vanilla, where gifts are always artifacts. 07:24 aosdict, what if tthe luckstone is cursed? 07:27 [07nd] elagabalus (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 5440 points, T:5836, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 07:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:30 bug_sniper: then -1 luck 07:31 Tangles: use doname 07:32 but remember to unset dknown afterwards 07:32 if it was unset beforehand 07:32 so that the livelog doesn't end up affecting the game 07:35 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 07:39 . 07:39 LarienTelrunya: Message from Tangles at 2017-10-18 08:44 EDT: I had to revert a couple of your changes to get menucolors working again. Might have to have a better look at why that's broken next time we need a Windows build. 07:40 huh, 2 polytraps in the same room 07:40 ri-corpse-san: Message from aosdict at 2017-10-17 23:55 EDT: just replying to your "RNG either loves or abhors me" message 07:40 in addition to a artifact on the ground 07:40 and the downstair 07:40 that's a lotta special things 07:41 Tangles: ooh you merged it, nice :) feel free to adjust things to make everything work smoothly, since it's likely I screwed up some stuff with my limited coding knowledge 07:44 I forgot to type name something, therefore I thought it was a no msg wand, but it was that polymorph wand I picked up ;-; 07:45 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had athame named Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5511 07:46 !tell neroonetrueking: argentum golem self-poly gives error regarding "strange attack of yours" when I hit something 07:46 Will do, ri-corpse-san! 07:46 I don't suppose Magicbane does something neat in Grunthack that it doesn't do in vanilla? 07:46 isn't it a quarterstaff there? 07:46 and also, YANI: #sitting on traps, even with magic resistance, will still trigger them 07:47 i.e. teleportation, polymorph, level tele, etc. 07:47 so you don't have to disrobe to enter the vault 07:47 ri-corpse-san: you just made me try to #sit, since it just so happened that my character is in a pit :P nothing happened though 07:47 (and I'm magic resistant) 07:48 ri-corpse-san: you can ^T on a teleport trap, including vault teleporters, even with magic resistance, I think. 07:48 ah 07:48 TIL 07:48 it's annyoing for incantifiers, they have intrinsic MR 07:48 so you just can't use vault teleporters (unless that works aosdict) 07:48 well, since I didn't want a segfault, a deep wyrm is good 07:48 and now I've got 3 eggs :D 07:49 ri-corpse-san: yeah, it works in nhdev at least 07:49 .... but I have no hands, _or_ legs 07:51 I like how spell memory improves by casting them here. 07:51 It's how it should be. 07:52 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 287 points, T:396, killed by an egg 07:53 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 6623 points, T:6237, killed by a red dragon 07:54 :( I dead 07:54 used the wish on the wrong thing i think, next time I'll go for a lightsaber 07:54 [13dnh] rikersan (Tou Inc Fem Neu), 62092 points, T:6896, killed by an ogre mage 07:54 good bones file at least if it leaves one 07:55 3 magic markers, a +2 silver saber, CPM and the tshirt 07:56 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 51 points, T:76, killed by life drainage 07:58 ri-corpse-san: is that gm mode? 07:59 LarienTelrunya: can you use gm mode on yourself? 07:59 yes 07:59 yes, but I wouldn't count an ascension as genuine if I were to score one in gm mode, since I could stuff my char with beneficial monsters (e.g. ones that give resistances) 07:59 well the dnh death wasn;t 07:59 this is though 07:59 I think 08:00 maybe not though I think I might hvae overriden that 08:00 * LarienTelrunya opens monst.c to look for interesting monsters to spawn 08:00 just pasted my dnh rc into this 08:00 well, if that char was started with gm mode active then it will still be active 08:00 is it "gm_mode"? 08:00 (it's a birth option) 08:00 or gmmode 08:00 ah 08:00 OPTIONS=gmmode 08:00 kk 08:01 hmm, apparently you're not playing in gm mode since the mail didn't get read automatically 08:01 weird... 08:01 visual bug? 08:01 and hm 08:01 I don't know why 08:01 can you open the options menu? 08:01 k 08:02 first page 08:02 hmm, it's off 08:02 gmmessage? 08:02 gmmode 08:02 o I see it 08:02 hm 08:02 I mean I don't mind quitting :p 08:02 gmmessage controls whether the game tells you what monster I spawned 08:02 ah 08:02 nah, by all means keep playing :) 08:02 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 163 points, T:262, killed by an iguana 08:03 "Welcome to #hardfought, how tough are you?" "I read magic scrolls without identifying them." "Yeah, so?" "While confused." 08:03 wtf, the teleporter angered the shopkeeper?! 08:03 well fuck 08:03 yes 08:03 tha'ts a thing 08:03 he stepped on it and was teleported out of his shop 08:03 that's a known bug iirc 08:03 heh, unintended side effect of traps being able to spawn in shops 08:03 any teleportation out of shop angers 08:04 even if the player didn;t 08:04 since when is there a charging spell? 08:04 since slex 08:04 but this is FIQH 08:04 that might be why a player got killed by a random hostile shopkeeper through no fault of their own a while ago 08:04 larien: I don't even need to quit :p I'm dead anyway 08:04 ri-corpse-san: get off the level ASAP :D 08:04 or steal the shop contents first 08:04 as long as the shopkeeper's not there, the items are yours for the taking 08:04 LOL 08:05 ohey khor 08:05 what 08:05 I found a spellbook of charging 08:05 :D 08:05 a phase spell too 08:05 what the heck 08:05 lol 08:05 that's definitely a thing 08:05 100% fail rate 08:05 ggwp 08:05 [10fh] BassBassKickKickBassKickKick (Luxidream) (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the samurai of FIQ, the former Joshu, on T:12003 08:05 k then 08:05 I was not fast enough 08:05 o well 08:05 [12slex] rikersan (Elm Ang Mal Neu), 2294 points, T:1496, killed by a shotgun shell 08:06 !lastgame rikersan 08:06 LarienTelrunya: https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rikersan/slex/dumplog/1507921281.slex.txt 08:06 ;-; I forgot I had magic resistance 08:06 thought I could just step on the trap 08:06 and tele away 08:06 stupid angels 08:06 with ctrl-T it would have worked 08:06 that's the second variant that's fucked me over in 08:06 but that costs an extra turn 08:06 larien: didn't have time ;P 08:06 any fun roles? 08:06 occult? 08:06 angel camperstriker :D 08:06 uhh what? 08:06 uh that crashed 08:06 occult master 08:06 *** stack smashing detected ***: /slex-2.0.9/slex terminated 08:06 yep 08:07 wtf 08:07 ^ 08:07 are you still playing in curses mode? 08:07 yes 08:07 using the role selection menu in curses mode crashes the game (known bug) 08:07 not playing atm tho 08:07 ah 08:07 TIL 08:07 khoR_: FIQHack has some new spells 08:07 V - an uncursed magic marker (1:50) {2} 08:07 astral vision, charging, phase and summon nasties 08:07 It worked \o/ 08:07 you can workaround it by setting your char in the rcfile: OPTIONS=role:Cam,race:Ang,gender:Fem,align:Neu 08:08 it's cool 08:08 then you won't have to fiddle with crashy menus ;) 08:08 I'll just disable cursess 08:08 congrats khor :P 08:08 !who 08:08 ri-corpse-san: AmyBSOD [12slex] Luxidream [10fh] Khor [10fh] Eleven [07nd] 08:08 of course the bug should be fixed someday 08:08 LarienTelrunya: people like playing gameoverhack I see 08:08 slex is fun :D 08:09 heh 08:09 hold up, do camperstrikers start with -alignment? 08:09 -.- 08:09 FIQ: well done :) 08:09 LarienTelrunya: nah, well done to you ;) 08:09 camperstriker starting alignment is 0 08:09 FIQ: I meant because you managed to get players to flock to your variant 08:10 I meant of yours :D 08:10 wat 08:10 *to 08:10 of all the things I could be missing 08:10 how is indentify one of them 08:10 wait, fiq told me Im a priest and I can write stuff 08:10 lets see 08:10 not 100% of the time 08:11 but you have a success rate bonus 08:11 the chance of writing is in FIQHack XL/50 08:11 FIQ: oh you meant that slex is gameoverhack :P 08:11 for priests, effective XL is +20 08:11 so at XL30 they can write things 100% of the time 08:11 no luck involved? 08:11 no 08:11 dw 08:11 im a pro 08:11 watch me 08:12 c - an uncursed spellbook of identify. 08:12 :] 08:12 remember that the identify spell was nerfed in FIQHack 08:12 but this shouldn't be a major issue for you 08:12 since IIRC priests reach expert in divination 08:12 I cannot remember something I never knew 08:12 where it works like vanilla 08:12 wait what 08:12 identifying a magical item 08:12 khoR_: at unskilled/restricted, it only gives base type 08:12 doesnt tell me what it has 08:12 ja pierdole 08:13 at basic it gives enchantment, wand charges and properties 08:13 at skilled it gives BUC too 08:13 at expert it gives fooproofness 08:13 cast identify 5 more times 08:13 and you'll reach basic 08:13 then you can ID properties 08:14 detect unseen is more points 08:14 oh wait, ID is only level 2 now 08:14 so you need 6 casts 08:14 err 7 08:14 khoR_: yeah that works 08:15 larien: have to go afk, can't play atm 08:15 ah; well I'll be here for a while 08:15 great 08:15 orcish helm of aggravate monsters 08:15 what a premium item I have right there 08:15 xD 08:15 that can be useful 08:15 if you want monsters to find you 08:16 hothraxxa has used it on purpose at times 08:16 in FIQHack 08:16 hothraxxa sucks 08:16 he left me bones with drained magic marker 08:16 he is the worst 08:16 ; ( 08:16 lol 08:16 (yes I'm still in that game) 08:17 aosdict: If it's in the quest text file, then yes; but if he's not one of the quest specials (leader, friendly, nemesis) then he probably just uses standard sounds.c monster speak code, and I likely didn't special-case that. 08:17 brb 08:17 solving my ring problems 08:17 Nah, this would just be standard priest speech. 08:18 "Gold good. Big god like gold. You give me gold?" 08:18 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu) shouted "ElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElbereth", on T:252 08:18 * FIQ turns to flee! 08:18 What the hell was that 08:18 aosdict: Heh, that'd be cool. 08:18 heh, annoyingly they keep coming back and the dust-Elbereths keep eroding 08:18 But it'd have to be special-cased on being in the quest branch and being priest-role. 08:19 wtf? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EgD9VsLQ/ 08:19 LarienTelrunya: ElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElberethElbereth 08:19 jonadab: yes 08:19 I do not see a problem with this 08:19 what is the harm of adding more special cases 08:19 that did 110 damage to me 08:19 aosdict: Oh, it's not a _problem_; NetHack is mostly special cases. 08:19 that's a master zap 08:20 why did that wand zap hit me 7 times 08:20 Elronnd: heh, that might be longer than the maximum permissible engraving length 08:20 Well, actually, no, NetHack is mostly exceptions to the special cases. 08:20 wirix was a player monster I presume? 08:20 shopkeeper 08:20 but still 08:20 ah 08:20 7 times! 08:20 yeah 08:20 they get expert wands 08:20 be careful 08:20 that wand was blessed too 08:20 nice suicide though 08:21 well now I have all the rings in the game probably 08:21 :P 08:21 YASI: shopkeeper role where your whole adventure's goal is to get cool loot, including the Amulet of Yendor, to stock your shop. The quest leader is One-Eyed Sam. 08:21 khoR_: a master zap creates an explosion on first hit which is followed by d5 additional ones 08:21 so as usual 08:21 I got the worst luck 08:21 and the shopkeeper highrolled 08:22 [07nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2581 points, T:5204, killed by a dwarf 08:22 khoR_: no, you could've *died* 08:22 a master zap does up to 216 damage without resistance 08:22 Thats retarded 08:22 1d5+1 explosions with 6d6 damage 08:23 khoR_: Not my problem if people pester shopkeepers 08:23 Treat them with respect and you'll be fine 08:23 If he didn't want ppl to pester him he shouldnt have so much shiny stuff 08:23 his fault 08:24 hm 08:24 I got ring of conflict 08:24 is that changed in FIQH? 08:24 -!- Tokage has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:24 yes 08:24 only melee combat is conflicted 08:24 no ranged combat 08:25 do you asign spells to certain letters? 08:25 it's too much of a coincidence that Dig is d and Identify is I 08:25 yes 08:26 thats nice 08:26 :D 08:29 ok should be ready for the castle 08:29 will continue tomorrow 08:29 I have no clue what to wish for tho 08:29 and I already broke wishless 08:30 anyway, cya 08:30 :3 08:30 see you 08:30 aosdict: And your quest nemesis is Rodney, and he's attended by the other three riders? 08:30 what? why? 08:30 why would Rodney hate shopkeepers 08:30 he already hates you 08:31 Oh, wait, you're right. 08:31 Your nemesis would be the High Priest of Moloch. 08:31 YASI: the shopkeeper quest nemesis is the Master of Thieves. Again. 08:31 Because he's the one with the Amulet. 08:32 jonadab: your *adventure* is to get the Amulet, not the quest. 08:32 aosdict: haha, as if Master of Thieves wasn't recycled enough 08:33 master of thieves should have a stealing attack 08:33 that can choose what to steal 08:33 that's an actual yani ^ 08:34 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 2271 points, T:801, killed by a hugging boot 08:37 larien: what's "cou"? 08:37 alb is albae I assume 08:37 ah, couriers? 08:38 yeah; they're a very difficult role 08:39 ye 08:39 makes sense 08:39 intrinsic conflict means running out of food all the damn time early on 08:39 courier's conflict + albae's hatred 08:39 but yea hunger 08:39 Albanian Courier? 08:41 albae are supposed to be mystic elven-like beings that murder people and then create sculptures from their victim's corpses or something 08:41 (sculpture building not included in slex :D) 08:41 why not? we already have statues... 08:48 sounds like something from GoT 08:50 what's heavily cursed do again? 08:50 66% chance to resist remove curse ri-corpse-san 08:50 thanks 08:50 good slex geno? 08:51 from throne, so uncursed 08:51 LarienTelrunya, that's a question for you 08:51 4chan horse 08:51 fuck them they killed me last time 08:51 It doesn't matter, since something else will kill you anyway. 08:51 usually I pick disenchanters 08:51 hm good choice 08:51 this is a nice throne 08:51 aquirement too 08:51 ANOTHER GENO 08:51 can you genocide truck ghosts? 08:51 no ;-; 08:52 no 8 08:52 what is this throne 08:52 does slex have magic ones 08:52 I've gotten acquirement, identify an item, 2 genos, and now unrestrict bow + 1 level 08:52 another genocie 08:52 LarienTelrunya, also can you genocide beholders? 08:52 heh, I dunno; arch-lich? 08:53 done 08:53 and no behodlers 08:53 it's gone now lol 08:53 why can't he genocide truck ghosts and beholders? 08:53 slex thrones are generally better than vanilla ones, i.e. they're much more likely to give a couple effects before disappearing 08:53 8 is ungenoable 08:53 what about beholders then? 08:53 I think it's a unique in slex 08:53 as the neu quest boss? 08:54 the unique beholder cannot be genocided 08:54 also, what are these msgs 08:54 incoming msgs for player 1 08:54 one was from rodney 08:54 probably a loudspeaker on the level, which blurts out fake messages 08:54 another from anatasia steele >_> 08:54 LarienTelrunya, what happens if you genesis a genocided monster? 08:54 bug_sniper: I think it will be spawned anyway 08:55 anyway, afk now (eating) 08:55 > the best non-slex variants are grunt fourk and dnethack 08:55 good choices 08:55 > The message is from 'Famine'. It reads: 'Just 08:55 thinking about you already makes me hungry. Come to the Astral Plane now so I 08:55 can make you lose the game one step away from the high altar!'- 08:56 LarienTelrunya, looks like you've made grey stones terrible things to pickup, even for players looking for a luckstone 08:56 yes 08:56 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56 and BUC identifying it no longer helps for loadstones, as healthstones exist 08:56 same deal for players looking for a healthstone 08:57 with all these cursed stones making identifying one produce almost no progress 08:58 :D no more cursed dagger 08:58 now I have a silver +1 dagger 08:58 bug_sniper: yet along the fact that identifying it may not even work :P 08:58 by the way, heavily cursed and prime cursed loadstones exist in slex 08:59 EPI: in addition to gray loadstones, there are also loadstones in all the other gem colors. 08:59 Also, loadgold. 08:59 WHY IS THERE A PRIESTESS OF MOLOCH HERE 08:59 LARIEN PLEASE DONT LEAVE 08:59 at least you can spend that loadgold 08:59 I NEED HELP 08:59 e - a yellow gem. You rebalance your load. Movement is difficult. 08:59 black metroid, priestess of moloch, spellcasting unique hill giant 08:59 ri-corpse-san, point your curser on it 09:00 and the stairs are blocked 09:00 for 8 whole turns 09:00 and I have AC 10 and my weapon is a +1 dagger 09:00 is it peaceful? 09:00 no 09:00 ok, don't go near it then 09:00 uh 09:00 that's easier said than done 09:00 escpaed tho 09:01 this level only has 2 water demons 09:01 ezpz 09:01 >_> 09:01 lol found a grey stone 09:01 kick tested 09:01 it's good 09:01 leave it alone 09:02 nah 09:02 I'm going for the lulz 09:02 heh, where is the priestess of Moloch? 09:02 I don't know 09:02 level below me 09:03 with hrugnir? 09:03 spellcasting hill giant 09:03 # - a cursed grey stone called unidentifiable cursed garbage 09:03 > the breton scores an own goal 09:03 ow lol 09:03 uhh, this will be difficult; better hope the mines downstair is somewhere on dlvl2 09:03 why is the game making fart jokes 09:04 ri-corpse-san, you can phase door away from tough monsters 09:04 true 09:04 I'm not sure if that dlvl3 allows teleportation 09:04 source code says it's noteleport 09:05 shrug 09:05 hold up 09:05 well, the priestess shouldn't leave her temple, so just don't step into the temple? 09:05 why is dlvl 3 no tele 09:05 >_> 09:05 it's a clone of your quest home level 09:05 larien: did you miss the spellcasting unique hill giant? 09:05 what 09:05 I don't like my home level 09:06 Amy, maybe genesis something with a wand of digging 09:06 >_> 09:06 yes 09:06 so that he can deg past the level 09:06 well the hill giant will be dangerous I guess 09:06 ya dont say 09:06 ooh pickaxe 09:06 Hill giant with a wand of disintegration? 09:06 okay, now you can get a wand of digging; good luck! I'm off eating again 09:06 likely 09:06 have fun! 09:07 also does H respect elbereth? 09:07 I have a wand of lightning 09:07 LarienTelrunya: Have you ported over Brogue-style zombies yet? 09:07 LarienTelrunya: have you ported over GruntHack-style zombies yet? 09:07 wow 09:07 Luxidream stepped on a polymorph trap in FIQHack 09:08 5 steps away from the downstairs to Kaen's level 09:08 Elronnd: Brogue zombies are much more terrifying than Grunt zombies. 09:08 [12slex] rikersan (Cam Ang Mal Neu), 2218 points, T:1017, killed by a kick in the nuts 09:08 the digging nymph used her wand 09:08 to dig dow 09:08 and lost his armor 09:08 down 09:08 >_> 09:08 (They have about three times as many hitpoints as you, for one thing.) 09:09 and lighting them on fire is never a good choice 09:09 just light them on fire and run away 09:09 simple 09:09 I died so many times trying that 09:09 jonadab: oh? 09:09 * Elronnd has never played brogue seriously 09:09 well, I did 09:09 but I didn't get very far 09:09 they emit noxious gas that make both them and you slow when within it 09:09 it's flammable 09:09 FIQ: Yeah, hopefully nothing delays you as you flee for 200+ turns while the zombie _slowly_ burns to death and wants to hug you in nauseating fire meanwhile. 09:09 so setting them on fire will make them into living fireballs 09:10 but they burn _forever_ 09:10 ^ 09:10 not literally but a lonng time 09:10 it does like 3 dmg per turn or smth to the 09:10 them 09:10 but it's so fun 09:10 and they're tanky af 09:10 and totally risk-free 09:10 You generally have to flee up to the previous level. 09:10 I sometimes wonder, how does light work in nethack 09:10 how is the air just...lit? 09:10 are there lamps? Is the air radiant? 09:10 they have 80 hp 09:10 elronnd: magical air 09:10 also hydrates you very well 09:11 so you don't need to drink 09:11 Elronnd: The bad thing about light in NetHack is that it's binary. On or off. 09:11 There's no "dimly lit" 09:11 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 09:12 brogue doesn't really have that either I think 09:12 it's just a visual effect 09:12 I was going to make a rogulike where the air could be foggy 09:12 darkness exists though 09:12 Wait, aren't darker areas better for hiding in Brogue? 09:12 yes 09:12 increases stealth iirc 09:12 and when it was foggy, it made you see things that are far away less well 09:12 You can see your stealth radius go up and down as you walk around, into darker and lighter areas. 09:12 whether a square is lit or not is binary. But whether or not you see it is a float 09:13 This game is just weird. 09:13 what's worng now lol 09:13 3rd key of neutrality did not drop either 09:13 alhoon? 09:13 yep 09:13 yeah I've had bugs with that 09:13 killed it 09:13 congrats lol 09:13 dropped nothing. no book, no key 09:13 the third one doesn't drop a book 09:13 only the second 09:13 you can grab another book from illurien in the neutral quest 09:13 check for downstairs in the golem forest sections (stairs, not portals) 09:14 but then he will start harassing, no? 09:14 illurien is a girl iirc 09:14 and yes 09:14 but she's really easy to kill 09:14 really really easy >_> 09:14 Master Kaen claims another soul 09:14 s'okay. she can keep it 09:14 lel 09:15 she also doesn't summon/curse items 09:15 just like chthulu can keep my assault rifle thank you very much 09:15 only cast agg monster 09:15 why does he have it 09:15 >_> 09:15 cause some dickhead mind flayer took it off me with a bullwhip 09:15 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/fiqhack/dumplog/2017-10-18%2016:14:05,%20BassBassKickKickBassKickKick-Mon-Hum-Mal-Law,%20died.txt 09:15 ah 09:15 I blessed geno h when I get to his level generally 09:15 so I can grab !oFH off the flayers 09:15 oooh 09:15 that is a good idea 09:15 yes 09:15 maybe I'll go back and do that 09:16 tarmunora/nero told me about that iirc 09:16 porkman: I'd say go for it 09:16 is cthulu still asleep? 09:16 no 09:16 ah 09:16 he was easy though right 09:16 hit me a few times 09:16 RIP 09:16 but since I have some 900 HP, i lived 09:16 yea 09:16 and -70 AC 09:16 lol 09:17 porkman: so have you got 3 keys? 09:17 no 09:17 BassBassKickKickBasKickKick 09:17 ...k 09:17 wot 09:17 all I got is chaos 1, neut 2 09:17 ah 09:17 so I need chaos 3, yes? 09:17 or law any 09:17 Elronnd: he has plenty of names like that 09:17 axus can be killed from range 09:17 porkman: I'd clear chaos quest yea 09:17 I like the spheres I can get from chaos quest 09:17 but don't worry about chaos 3 09:17 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/fiqhack/dumplog/ 09:17 i lack some of the resistances 09:17 just ignore sir garland 09:17 he'll greet you at the beginning 09:17 kill him there that's fine 09:17 who's sir garland? 09:18 he appears when you first enter the chaos quest 09:18 pretty easy 09:18 just armed with a long sword 09:18 but do not kill him at the end of the chaos quest 09:18 do not 09:18 why not? 09:18 he will turn into Chaos, who is powerful 09:18 isn't that the guy who holds the 3rd key of chaos>? 09:18 you should be able to kill chaos but he'll burn/freeze/shock your stuff if you don't have the resistances 09:18 yes 09:18 you can get the 2nd key though 09:18 it's easy to get 09:19 meh. I'll just kill him :p 09:19 like, you can just pick it up off the floor 09:19 >_> 09:19 all my equipment is like, fooproof 09:19 ignore garland the 2nd time until you grab the crystals though 09:19 porkman: any potions/scrolls? 09:19 in bag 09:19 does he burn inside bags too? 09:19 then yeah go for it 09:19 shouldn't 09:20 I could stash rings away... annulus is an artifact ring, so I keep free action 09:20 he will summon high-levle non-unique demons though, should be a piece of cake though 09:20 and ring of alacrity... meh, I can cast haste self 09:20 do you not have speed boots? 09:20 no 09:20 huh 09:20 I have water walking and I am going to keep those tyvm 09:20 ah 09:20 next time you do'nt need water walking, wish for whisperfeet 09:20 chaotic speed boots, #invoke for invisibilty 09:20 enchant to +7 09:20 I am otherwise prone to walking into water with dire consequences 09:21 lel 09:21 flying is good amirite 09:21 flying yeah 09:21 if I find flying I'll swap 09:21 medusa's perseus lev boots are flying in dnh 09:21 for later 09:21 there's also sometimes some on teh sunless sea 09:21 btw, it's the shield giving horrible spellcastin penalty 09:21 ah RIP 09:21 reflection right? 09:22 did you grab the +9 ones from the deepest ones? :D 09:22 silver scale 09:22 ah 09:22 I got a couple of those, will poly them into something 09:22 cool 09:22 (maybe boots of flying? ha!) 09:22 there are only 2 iirc but ye 09:22 kek 09:22 that would be nice ;P 09:22 worth swapping for sure, +9 vs +0 :p 09:22 does the black market exist in dnh?> 09:23 no 09:23 not really needed though 09:23 porkman: you playing on asc right now? 09:24 yep 09:24 yep 09:24 ninja'ed 09:24 sometimes I'm impressed that extinctioning deep ones isn't common 09:24 hmmmm 09:24 so many of them 09:24 I could just go geno h 09:24 and go back to chthulu level 09:25 do that later 09:25 go for chaos quest first 09:25 or just grab another assault rifle from the quest home if you don't mind re-enchanting 09:25 I suppose 09:25 sometimes I wish dnethack had those enchant wep/armor spellbooks 09:26 I could make SDSM 09:26 I mean, I'd go for chaos first merely because it's a slog back from the neu quest 09:26 but I am lazy so 09:26 porkman: why though? CPM is so much better 09:26 that'd give me improved reflection without casting fail rate 09:26 what book did you get btw? 09:26 infinite spells 09:26 ah nice 09:26 maybe try for illurien 09:26 nah 09:26 you can bind eden from the book of lost names 09:26 she can keep whatever she has 09:26 that grants reflection 09:27 intrinsically 09:27 but its' up to you 09:27 ...improved reflection? 09:27 yep 09:27 hmmm 09:27 wiztesting rigth now 1 sec 09:27 but then she'll start cursing my shit 09:27 no 09:27 she doesn't curse or summon 09:27 what does she do then 09:27 just cast agggravate monsters or reappear 09:27 agg monster, and then comes and /odeaths you? 09:27 25% agg mon, 25% reappear, 50% nothing 09:27 right when you were enchanting stuff? 09:27 and she'll go down to 2 lightsaber hits >_> 09:28 porkman: black crystal grants slotless MR and #invokes for AoE disintegration :P 09:28 I have innate MR 09:28 (incantifier) 09:28 then wand of death isn't imporatn 09:29 :P 09:29 oh wait 09:29 i have the third key of neutrality 09:29 must have autopicked it up 09:29 haha 09:30 go for chaos anyway if you want resistnaces 09:30 and the black crystal AoE death is nice 09:30 again tho, up to you 09:31 the thing is 09:31 I want 0% fail because 09:31 if I get slowign down 09:31 yes :P 09:31 I may not have time to take acid from BOH and then drink it 09:31 ah 09:31 stone to flesh may be the only way to save self 09:31 can't pray, can't eat 09:31 you can't carry acid? 09:32 i can carry it, but potions explode soon as something burns you 09:32 water walking would save you from dipping accidentally 09:32 pyrolisks 09:32 a 09:32 etc 09:32 doesn't with fire resis ;) 09:32 does too, at least in vanilla 09:32 not dnh 09:32 you mean fire resistance will make your equipment resistant too? 09:32 no, equip will burn 09:32 but scrolsl and potions won't 09:33 it's kinda odd but there it is 09:33 spellbooks are safe too 09:33 porkman: you'll absolutely need fire and cold resis into gehennom though 09:33 absolutely 09:33 and I get those by carrying orbs 09:33 fine 09:33 chaos it is then 09:37 [10fh] TKirby (tkirby) (Mon Elf Fem Cha) killed the ghost of force bolt is broken, the former Aspirant, on T:1492 09:38 porkman: btw, wiztested: lizard blood also cures sotning 09:38 in case you were wondering 09:39 cave lizard? 09:39 any lizard 09:39 that included 09:39 in dnethack, only lizard corpses will provide the resistance to the spell 09:39 you *are* watching me, aren't ya 09:39 but all lizards cure 09:39 yep 09:39 hahaa 09:39 as of a minute ago 09:39 thanks 09:39 I stalk people ;P 09:39 i was about to blank it 09:39 though... it's not like I lack acid 09:39 ye 09:39 just noting 09:40 okay I'm finally back! Elronnd: no full grunthack-style zombies, but there are ones with disease melee attacks 09:40 baby/small/normal/large lizards all cure stoning 09:40 Grimlock blood is acidic :p 09:40 LarienTelrunya: You need Brogue-style zombies. 09:40 jonadab: I'm not very familiar with brogue, the only thing I know is that the developer has a gas fetish :P 09:41 porkman: TIL, didn't konw 09:41 it's cannibalism for humans iirc 09:41 so I haven't tried eating any 09:41 I just tried to blank it, and it expl0ded 09:42 so i quaffed the other one. no cannibalism penalty, or at least no msg 09:42 larien: tl;dr: tanky af, slowing AoE effect around them (includes the zombie itself), can be lit on fire for !fun! 09:42 slowing AoE sounds useful though 09:42 porkman: you'd get msg so probably doesn't apply to incs 09:42 hohum. how did I get innate polycontrol 09:42 LarienTelrunya: Zombies emit nausea gas when they move, and when they take damage in anyway. Nauseating gas slows down any monster that's in it, including the player; it's also highly flammable, but zombies have so many HP, that they take hundreds of turns to burn to death, chasing you the whole time. 09:42 Setting everything on fire. 09:43 what did I drink that gave me it... 09:43 You do NOT want to set a zombie on fire and then retreat through a swamp. 09:43 Because boom, you die. 09:43 Horribly. 09:43 porkman: silver key 09:43 heh, well there are no brogue-style gases in nethack 09:43 grants polycontrol and telecontrol 09:43 wen eta brogue fourk :P 09:43 Heh. 09:43 Touche. 09:44 and while such a concept might fit into slex, the implementation would be hell and very probably beyond my skills 09:44 ask elronnd nicely? 09:45 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:45 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 09:45 LarienTelrunya: FIQHack zombies has an AoE attack that c ould be flavoured as a gas 09:45 well for the time being there's more than enough other things on slex's to-do list anyway 09:45 allthough it isn't really one visually 09:45 larien: like what? more shoes? 09:45 :p 09:45 (which keeps zombie illness from dissipating naturally, and revives things) 09:46 You should port AT_AREA :P 09:46 26 diluted potions of gain level 09:46 yes 09:46 you're level 30 tho 09:46 >_> 09:46 I'm going to drain to 1 09:46 ri-corpse-san: hahaha, probably :D 09:46 ah 09:46 and re-distribute skillz 09:46 hp and pw would be nice 09:46 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 09:46 don't use the potions 09:46 just kill stuff 09:46 exp gain is really fast 09:46 when drained 09:47 or use full healing probably actually 09:47 but still, the option is there 09:47 I have 857 HP and 21101 max power 09:47 how much hp was from full healing tho :P 09:48 ...most of it 09:48 make sure your constitution is 25 09:48 when draining? 09:48 fiq: he's already wished for 3 artis 09:48 then gain level will give more PH generally I think 09:48 no 09:48 *HP 09:48 it applys retroactively 09:48 no, constitution affects max HP as you swap it in and out 09:48 ^ 09:48 ri-corpse-san: things is different at XL30 09:48 *are 09:48 then con still matters 09:48 dnh is weird :P it applies 09:48 since 30 is the max 09:49 well yes, if you drunk at 30 09:49 fiq: oh it works fine wiht lvl 30 >_> my lvl 30 ogresmasher monk can tell you 09:49 but how do I get con 25 09:49 ogresmasher in off-hand iirc 09:49 or main hand 09:49 that's the only way 09:49 ri-corpse-san: no you don't understand 09:49 I mean 09:49 not gonna waste a wish on that piece of crap 09:49 ah I do see 09:49 i have a +2 ring of gain con 09:49 it can't change things retroactively retroactively if you "gain" levels when already at XL30 09:49 where is this game happening and can I watch? 09:49 can probably charge it 09:49 bouquet: ascension.run 09:49 so con still matters at that point 09:49 fiq: yeah I see what you mean 09:50 the bonus from drinking !oGL at lvl 30 is higher with 25 con 09:50 good idea 09:50 ...apparently not 09:50 must have polypiled it 09:50 RIP 09:50 is 16 dex max you can do? 09:50 that seems 2 lower 09:50 ah 09:50 being an orc also works 09:50 lol 09:50 porkman: he has a point 09:50 you might want to consider polymorphing into an orc of the ages of stars 09:51 an orc? 09:51 would give max attributes iirc (at lvl 30), 2 weapon attacks 09:51 like, to gain what 09:51 porkman: dnethack orcs increase up to 25/25/25 stats at lvl 30 09:51 3 more HP per potion? 09:51 "orc of the ages of stars" is also a broken polyform 09:51 not as broken as others but eh 09:51 will that smash my armor? 09:51 nope 09:51 medium sized 09:52 anyway, i'll drink those gain levels after I've done chaos and such so 09:52 you'd need an amulet of unchaging though 09:52 will think about it later 09:52 why? 09:52 permapoly 09:52 I'm not familiar with dnethack, but that HP and Power is off the charts. 09:52 why would I wanna be permapoly 09:52 because it's broken 09:52 it deals roughly 3x dmg iirc 09:52 or smth 09:52 gain level will still apply HP to your original form if polymorphe 09:52 d 09:52 bouquet: he's a race called "incantifier", they consume power instead of nutrition 09:53 so they have much much higher max power 09:53 bouquet, the HP is attainable with full healings which I polypiled for 09:53 and the hp is just quaffing a lot of full healing 09:53 the Pw, is racial 09:53 ye 09:53 Got it. 09:53 you burn that instead of nutrition 09:53 I do the same to max my HP, but I usually stop short of 400! 09:53 but you can only eat magic items 09:53 Chthulu hits for 400 09:53 I wanted to make sure I could survive a hit or two 09:53 Ah, cthulhu. 09:53 He's a dick. 09:53 bouquet: he's different in dnh 09:54 no tentacles 09:54 specially cause im going to go back and get MY GUN BACK from him 09:54 does he reconstitute after a few turns like in UnNethack? 09:54 ITS MY GUN DAMNIT 09:54 lol 09:54 bouquet: yep 09:54 he deals a 100d4 (100-400) dmg melee attack though 09:54 and it pretty much never misses 09:54 also, AC -70 09:54 eating rings of protection iz gud for joo 09:55 did you poly into a xorn to do so or is there another way to eat them in dnet? 09:55 incs can eat rings and amuelts 09:55 like xorns 09:55 incantifiers can eat any ring 09:55 not just metal ones 09:55 but all rings/amulets, not just rock/metal 09:55 wow. 09:55 incs are OP >_> 09:55 for nutrition, but can gain intrinsics from it 09:55 wow, how do you ever kill chthulu? 09:55 he's really slow 09:55 and ranged attacks work 09:56 with a gun 09:56 Ah, I see 09:56 except 09:56 you need to blindfold yourself though 09:56 THEY BULLWHIPPED IT OUT OF ME 09:56 Last time I fought him I hovered over lava and zapped with a wand of death 09:56 he petrifies too? jeez 09:56 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 09:56 nope 09:56 amnesia 09:56 wow 09:56 lol 09:56 passive though like medusa 09:56 no, but just looking at him will amnesia you 09:56 neko: if you don't also have sustain ability it drains 1d10 wisdom 09:56 per turn 09:56 that's pretty rough 09:56 >_> 09:56 yep 09:56 *permanent* drain 09:56 yes 09:56 Hmmm. That's actually terrifying. 09:56 yes 09:56 AND HE COMES BACK? 09:56 yes 09:57 what?? 09:57 infinitely 09:57 he's slow though, but he does warp 09:57 but only on his level 09:57 he randomly teleports next to you, too 09:57 does he follow you up stairs? 09:57 he would 09:57 god no 09:57 but you can outrun him 09:57 not hard 09:57 iirc his speed is 3 >_> 09:57 if he could go up stairs you'd never survive 09:57 he's slow as fuck, but sometimes gets a few turns in where he turbocharges in speed 09:57 he can I think, he's an & 09:57 almost killed me 09:57 but still 09:57 I AM GOING BACK. THAT IS MY GUN HE HAS 09:58 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 29049 points, killed by a white unicorn on hardfought 09:58 tl;dr; dnethack counters OP things with OP players 09:58 *MY* gun 09:58 what's nottheoracle report? 09:58 porkman, I think you need to sit down for a bit 09:58 just meditate or smth 09:58 TROPHY: dgoddard now holds the "Who Wants to be a Killionaire?" 09:59 &help 09:59 &ping - ping! &time - Get time remaining ¬ify - Send message to tournament staff &lastgame/&lastasc - dumplogs from last game for player/server &scores - Link to scoreboard &servers - List of servers where you can play &help - This help. 09:59 oh is that dev/null/nethack bot 09:59 porkman: you know the silver key branchports right 10:00 yep 10:00 how do you think I got out of chthulu's lair 10:01 cursed gain level? 10:01 or the stairs 10:01 I've used both 10:01 And he carries the amulet... I mean, it makes sense 10:01 not in dnh 10:01 he doesn't carry anything :p 10:01 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 1757 points, T:679, killed by a dagger 10:02 sleep resistance also times out, just fyi porkman 10:03 -!- tacco| has joined #hardfought 10:04 waitaminute... this is the castle 10:04 what about it 10:05 how many levels did I just fall down from that hole 10:05 lol 10:05 shrug 10:06 -!- Tokage has joined #hardfought 10:07 f*cking amnesia 10:07 yes 10:07 you have stormhelm on, right? 10:07 nvm, blessed geno h would work 10:07 Yeah, I have stormhelm on 10:08 but why? does that block mind flayers? 10:08 no 10:08 but crystal helms do 10:08 and so do plasteel ones iirc 10:08 I was trying to remember whether you had stormhelm, otherwise you could swap your helmet out 10:09 but if you blessed geno h only 3 other things cause amnesia iirc, all rare (cthulu, some unique, and lethe elementals) 10:10 btw porkman, what graphics do you have on atm? 10:11 IBM 10:13 :D I was setting my terminal to cp437 10:13 now I can actually see your graphics :p not ?s 10:15 Spookunora: is aldinach currently in a game? 10:15 *enabled in-game 10:15 a tinning kit (7:127) 10:15 I see him in a dumplog 10:15 but tha'ts it 10:15 hta'ts a bit excessive porkman 10:15 nah 10:16 that's 127 potions for polypiling down the line 10:16 free (well, for gold) charging from shk 10:16 true 10:16 you can also charge with the annulus >_> 10:16 but yeah 10:16 only itself 10:16 really? 10:16 no? 10:16 huh 10:16 I don't think so 10:16 I think you can charge anything 10:16 if you invoke it in lightsaber form it charges, but charges itself 10:16 TIL 10:16 I thought it was PYEC-style charging 10:16 tried 10:16 what's TIL? 10:16 today I learned 10:17 i tried it, it just charges itself so you can keep using the lightsaber 10:17 huh 10:17 but I need free action, so until I find another ring of it, it's staying in ring form 10:17 yea 10:18 porkman: also, don't try eating any other free action rings, will not work 10:18 grants sleep resis instead 10:18 yep 10:18 kk 10:18 thats same as vanilla 10:18 boring. most spells at 13-15% 10:18 LarienTelrunya: what concept might fit into slex but would have a hell implementation? I can take a look 10:18 which means I can't read to recharge them just yet 10:18 but will run out mid-chaos quest 10:18 (something with gas? Could probably retrofit the lighting code) 10:19 porkman: yeah, I always hate that 10:19 slashem lets you read them at any % 10:19 yep 10:19 to refresh if you want 10:19 I like that 10:19 think it warns you if it's over 50% 10:19 you can also branchport down to the valley, clear that really quick, and use up the keys 10:19 they don't take space then 10:20 since they're annoyingly unbaggable 10:20 hm, that'll take me a few turns and... yeah, guess that works 10:20 Elronnd: well there was the suggestion with brogue zombies, but I have more than enough other things I want to implement in slex anyway 10:20 porkman: I've always done that just cuz its' annoying 10:20 they would be zombies surrounded by gas clouds that can ignite 10:21 there's also no point keeping more htan 3 keys, unless you keep a co-aligned one 10:21 they give some score, yeah, but that's about it 10:23 hmmmm 10:23 -5 ring of gain constitution 10:23 aaaawesome 10:24 lol 10:25 now it's +4 10:25 tha'ts good 10:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25 cancel, then charge 10:27 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 906 points, T:1151, killed by a monster (algolian suntiger) 10:28 larien: how do your attempts at albanian couriers go? 10:28 albae, and they're going very badly, can't get past dlvl3 10:28 RIP 10:28 this is also ironman mode though; usually some room has nasty monsters that end me 10:29 ah you're also attempting one, but without the ironman 10:29 You are AmyBSOD, a neutral male aquarian randomizer nastinator ironman albae Courier. HP: 18 (max 18) Pw 9 (max 9) AC 10 Current status effects: . 10:29 what 10:30 what are all the weird races or whatever 10:30 aquarian/randomizer/nastinator/? 10:30 oh, those are hybrid races; slex allows your character to be of several races at once 10:30 .... i lured wraiths into sokoban 10:30 and just realised 10:30 I cannot eat them 10:30 aquarian means more rivers, randomizer means random starting equipment, nastinator gives intrinsic nasty trap effects and ironman mode, well, makes special rooms everywhere 10:30 my dog just bit me to death 10:30 porkman: lol nice try 10:30 rip :( 10:30 [12slex] rikersan (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 4 points, T:13, killed by a monster (healing iron piercer) 10:31 gonna set no pet >_> 10:31 atcualy, I gtg now, will try no pet later 10:31 o/ 10:31 ooooh 10:31 :D 10:31 +3 ring of protection 10:31 nice 10:31 I can eat *that one* 10:31 eat 'em up 10:31 -!- ri-corpse-san has quit [Quit: horrible internet is horrible] 10:31 real women play with pet even as a role with intrinsic conflict :P 10:33 but not real men 10:36 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2189 10:36 :D 10:37 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 10:37 hmmm 10:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hothraxxa] by ChanServ 10:37 why can I not dip !owater into !opoly 10:37 LarienTelrunya: did you see 4534c95ab12b87e42a806578622380d9a990c888 10:37 huh, 40 people in here 10:37 since when did this channel get so big :P 10:38 FIQ: yeah; I'm planning to add a way for the player to displace peacefuls in slex one day 10:42 seems like this channel finally got bigger than the largest variant channel 10:48 -!- khoR_ has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:55 [04gh] Tokage (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1587 points, T:1709, killed by a small mimic 10:58 I'm pretty sure all my characters are a lot more fragile in Grunthack. 10:59 you see here a +5 ring of increase damage 11:01 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 11:01 yum yum yum 11:04 Why is the second key of neutrality etched, but the third one isn't? 11:05 FIQ: I figured I'd get my NH game on for /dev/null 11:05 argh, there's a gray ooze that breathes contamination 11:05 (why doesn't dnethack have weeping angel contamination breath? :D) 11:05 Porkman: all 2nd keys are etched 11:05 I thought it did? 11:05 it has no effect for roles other than binders 11:06 Now, I got rid of those pesky keys... 11:12 [04gh] Tokage (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 60 points, T:177, killed by a jackal, while misunderstanding a book 11:13 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 11:16 -!- Guest20602 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19 [07nd] elagabalus (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 804 points, T:1173, killed by a manes 11:27 [04gh] Tokage (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 90 points, T:146, killed by a falling rock 11:27 [04gh] Tokage (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:20, killed by a jackal, while misunderstanding a book 11:27 I am excellent at this game. 11:29 Hahah 11:29 now it's a HOOA, the +9 shield of reflection 11:29 let's try again! 11:29 aaaand 11:29 +9 flying boots 11:29 I kid you not 11:31 DId I, or di dI not call that 11:33 how do you tell the server to give a message to an offline player? 11:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:51 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Cou Alb Mal Neu), 31071 points, T:4416, killed by a monster (squad air elemental) 11:54 [04gh] Tokage (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1156 points, T:1712, killed by a giant beetle 11:54 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:54 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 12:12 FIQ, are you around? :) 12:13 yes 12:14 couple of questions for you... is there any point (other than failure rates) in levelling spells from skilled to expert? 12:14 I'm trying to rationalise this guy's skill slots 12:19 LarienTelrunya: hmmm, so fire would have to be implemented first? 12:19 well, many things would probably have to be implemented, and I say it's more trouble than it's worth 12:21 also, clockwise spin must be one of the most annoying interface screw traps, I think I should have a stern talking with the developer of this variant 12:22 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Elf Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:4248 12:22 Now I just need to get out of here with a goddamn oliphant on the prowl. 12:25 The homunculus is killed! It explodes! 12:27 -!- ri-corpse-san has joined #hardfought 12:33 Aaaaand yet another great game ruined by the fucking zombies. 12:33 nerf pls 12:33 [04gh] Tokage (Kni Elf Mal Law), 9114 points, T:5393, zombified by a kobold zombie 12:33 I was level nine, had a fucking Excalibur and some good magic cancellation, but noooo. 12:39 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Trs Bas Mal Cha), 10150 points, T:1362, killed by a monster (Woodland-elf) 12:47 !tell K2 pushed a bunch of bug fixes 12:47 Will do, FIQ! 12:52 Back 12:53 Ri-corpse-san: AI believe aldinach is in the game. Chaotic demon lord, right? 12:53 Fairly certain I summed him via same-race sacrifice once 12:53 huh ok 12:53 Porkman: Expert only really matters for high-level spells 12:53 reminds of of slashem genetic engineers 12:54 No 'functional' difference usually 12:54 probably only need expert for attack and matter, for finger of death and dig/polymorph 12:54 Iirc, expert-cast levitation grants flying, or maybe that was just a YANI 12:54 YANI 12:57 Mmh. It's in there, but commented out 12:57 huh cool 12:57 In the spell maintenance section 12:57 that seems like a reasonable thing to add 12:57 I guess not needed per se but useful 12:59 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Trs Bas Mal Cha), 714 points, T:597, killed by a monster (freemason worthy advisor) 12:59 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 12:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Grasshopper] by ChanServ 13:06 [07nd] elagabalus (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1947 points, T:3014, killed by a dwarf 13:18 ri-corpse-san: Maybe slex should have a monster who steals your shoes. 13:18 yes 13:19 but only if those shoes are not dissolved undead potatoes 13:19 the monster should say "MMMMMMMMMMMMMM such a fleecy pair of gentle-soft peeptoe high heels MUST HAVE!!!" when stealing them :D 13:20 that's a bit creepier but uh ok 13:20 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Gof Ske Fem Cha), 179 points, T:471, killed by a monster (wraith) 13:20 "These shoes make [monster] want to lick your toes!" 13:28 in other news, that "Gof Ske Fem Cha" I'm playing there? I discovered that this combo cannot eat at all, due to the role and race having conflicting diets. One can only suck blood from fresh corpses, the other can only eat old corpses. And the code works by making it so that trying to eat always fails if one of those requirements is not fulfilled (i.e. always). 13:29 that's not good 13:29 [07nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class a), on T:4727 13:29 what race? 13:29 skeleton race, goff role 13:29 ah 13:29 I didn't get hte Ske part 13:33 !who 13:33 ri-corpse-san: rikersan [13dnh] AmyBSOD [12slex] tkirby [10fh] Tokage [04gh] Eleven [07nd] Rx [07nd] Grasshopper [07nd] 13:33 Wow, 7 13:34 Seven what? 13:34 players 13:40 also, spookunora: can you still draw the cerulean sign w/ confused warding? 13:40 just wondering 13:45 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Gof Ske Fem Cha), 200 points, T:287, killed by a monster (drow mummy) 13:47 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Gof Ske Fem Cha), 119 points, T:6, killed by a monster (underrated southward) 13:48 omg jonadab you and your script-generated monsters :P 13:48 ? 13:49 jonadab made a perl script that creates randomized monsters for slex, and I put a bunch of them into the game 13:49 the "underrated southward" was such a monster (their names are randomized too) 13:49 ah 13:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:58 -!- Jendic has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- workimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 14:01 [12slex] AmyBSOD (Gof Ske Fem Cha), 512 points, T:769, killed by a monster (jaguar) 14:01 oh well, enough splatting for today 14:01 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:02 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 14:02 [04gh] Tokage (Wiz Kob Mal Cha), 604 points, T:1211, killed by a rothe 14:03 [07nd] Eleven (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4644 points, T:5638, killed by a black unicorn 14:15 [07nd] Eleven (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 73 points, T:256, killed by a sewer rat 14:18 rikersan: I believe that it is hallucinatory 14:19 you used to be able to draw w/ confused rmv curse 14:19 *warding 14:19 not sure why I said rmv curse 14:20 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:21 hmm 14:21 this NH4 fuzzer has been running through almost 60k games without errors so far 14:22 good stuff 14:22 Oh, probably then 14:22 It isn't terribly useful though 14:22 true 14:22 wards a lot of things tho 14:22 for comparision, it segfaults on test 4500ish on nethack4 14:23 jonadab: you should probably let it run on 4k too 14:23 it's set up automatically as part of the build process 14:24 however it doesn't seem to work 14:24 not ok 5180 - levelteleport,"?",genesis,"monsndx #318",wish,"Z - otyp #75",dip,wear,wield,fight,fight,cast,zap,read,drink,fight,fight,wait,wait,dip,wait,wait,wait [seed 0000005180000001] 14:24 # creating game: invalid options 14:24 for 4k that is 14:24 it spams these 14:28 hi 14:28 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 14:28 K2: Message from FIQ at 2017-10-18 15:47 EDT: pushed a bunch of bug fixes 14:29 -!- Tokage has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:32 FIQhack updated 14:36 !tell ais523 "I think maybe it's fiqhack that has it so that if the bow is offhand, you automatically swap it into mainhand? :: IMO there should probably be a confirmation for throwing arrows by hand, though" FIQHack has both. The 2nd only applies to 'f'iring, not 't'hrowing. 14:36 Will do, FIQ! 14:37 @le? underrated southward 14:37 No such monster. 14:38 @@le? underrated southward 14:38 underrated southward ~9~ Underwater Sabrina (06,01I) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: special | AC: 4 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 0d0 touch item steal, 0d0 tentacle wrap | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, breathless, oviparous, infravisible, vegetarian 14:38 What is the difference between @ and @@? 14:38 More lenient typo correction? 14:38 @@le?aijgkoawjehgiwjb 14:38 aijgkoawjehgiwjb ~11~ migo warrior (08,01a) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 18 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 30 | Generates: special | AC: -3 | Attacks: 1d3 sting drain str, 2d4 bite physical | Alignment: -7 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, poisonous 14:38 @@ has a max levenshtein distance of 30 14:38 I guess so 14:39 @ has I think 3 or 5? 14:39 @@le?aijgkoawjehgiwjbawioejioajbiojewgqgiowjbawegoiakha 14:39 No such monster. 14:39 (also it's not spelled levenshtein but I'm not sure what it is) 14:39 oh hmmm it might be 35 for @@ 14:39 @@le?asdkfjasl 14:39 asdkfjasl ~5~ Andreas (06,01s) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 15 | Res: disintegrate poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 70 | Generates: unique | AC: -5 | Attacks: 6d5 weapon poison-sting, 4d5 kick displacement, 4d4 non-contacting-beam webs | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, mindless, thick hide, poisonous, nopoly, touch petrifies, stalker 14:39 !tell LarienTelrunya the underrated southward appears not to be in the pinothing yet, it must be out of date. 14:39 Will do, jonadab! 14:39 levenshtein is correct 14:39 @@le?asdkfjasl;alksdjfj 14:39 asdkfjasl;alksdjfj ~12~ soft stalk (09,01F) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: 7 | Attacks: 0d4 passive legwound, 4d4 touch legwound | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, breathless, mindless, vegan 14:40 @@@le?aijgkoawjehgiwjbawioejioajbiojewgqgiowjbawegoiakha 14:40 jonadab: You should generate the name first, then use it as seed for the attributes :P 14:40 Aww, you can't make it even more lenient :-( 14:40 FIQ: Heh. 14:40 so you can have a @pl?whatever 14:42 @@v?Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal 14:42 Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal ~25~ water elemental (02,01E) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 30 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 5d6 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: swims, amphibious, breathless, mindless, unsolid, vegan 14:42 I think I'm approaching end of line in what the NH4 fuzzer can find automatically 14:42 almost done 100k runs without errors 14:42 !tell Adeon Pinobot seems not to know about hallucinatory monsters :-( 14:42 Will do, jonadab! 14:42 FIQ: Nice. 14:42 NH4 manages 4.5k 14:42 so there's room for fixes there 14:43 jonadab: I should modify bothack so that it can play FIQHack and let it run for bug hunting :-) 14:47 waiiiiit 14:47 nh4 has a client-server structure, right? 14:47 wouldn't it be *easier* to make an nh4 bot, because you could just make an alternate client that gets data directly from the server instead of scraping tty? 14:47 yep, that would be the obvious way to do it 14:48 Elronnd: that is exactly how the NH4 fuzzer works 14:48 well, kind of 14:48 the fuzzer hooks into libnethack directly 14:48 but yeah, you could write a special-purpose client 14:48 nh4has a fuzzer? 14:48 neat! 14:48 and let it connect to the NH4 server rpotocol 14:48 *protocol 14:49 could let people watch that way 14:49 -!- Jendic has quit [Quit: *poof*] 14:49 Elronnd: the fuzzer is basically a "windowport" 14:49 I think paxed's fuzzer works the same way in NH3 14:50 -!- Tokage has joined #hardfought 14:50 A silver iron hook? 14:50 Is it silver, or is it iron? 14:50 silver 14:50 haha 14:51 iron hook is grappling hook appearance 14:51 iron hook is just an unfortunate appearance 14:54 @d?darkness given hunger 14:54 darkness given hunger (15,01P) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold shock poison acid petrification | Confers: fire cold shock poison acid | MR: 88 | Generates: gehennom | AC: -10 | Attacks: 3d8 bite corrosion, 3d8 engulf digest, 0d0 passive corrosion | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, invisible 15:12 DIED: bouquet (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 759 points, killed by a kobold lord on altorg 15:13 Grunthack really could use armor sizes. 15:13 Any found armor's got 80% chance or so to be human-sized, and 10% for either large (fit for giants and ogres) or small (fit for kobolds). Can't wear any armor outside your size. 15:14 Dragon scales can fit for anyone: wear the scales, read an Enchant Armor scroll, and it creates a dragon scale mail fit for you. 15:14 or use dnethack style armor ideas 15:14 resize with an upgrade kit 15:14 to fit anything 15:14 including polymorph forms 15:15 Not everyything 15:15 really? 15:15 Some things simply cannot wear some armours 15:15 eg. centaurs cannot wear boots 15:15 No matter how hard you try 15:15 Could make horseshoes for them, though. 15:17 [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 42 darts on an altar, on T:4444 15:17 Makes a couple monsters less powerful than they could be 15:17 @d? Alider 15:17 Alider ~2~ drider (00,01C) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 1d10 weapon physical, 1d1 bite drain str, 1d1 kick webs, 2d4 spit webs | Alignment: -18 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 15:17 Hmm 15:17 Doesn't have it 15:18 @d? Priestess of Ghaunadaur 15:18 priestess of Ghaunadaur (06,01C) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 1d10 weapon physical, 3d8 bite corrosion, 1d1 kick webs, 0d8 cast clerical, 2d12 passive acid | Alignment: 15 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 15:34 [07nd] Rx (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4576 15:36 the ACURR function just gets the current stat, right? 15:37 or is it the value above the average stat, like 13 15:54 !who 15:54 ri-corpse-san: tkirby [10fh] Eleven [07nd] 16:03 -!- Haudegen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09 YASI: breaking a wand of wishing gives you another one that's 1:-1: 16:12 Could apply to any wand. 16:12 more useless with wands of wishing though 16:40 ri-corpse-san: ACURR returns current stat, yes 16:41 yeah I found that 16:41 I was confused about some code 16:51 -!- Porkmantwo has joined #hardfought 16:52 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:53 -!- Spookunora has left #hardfought 16:54 -!- Porkmanthree has joined #hardfought 16:54 -!- Porkmanthree is now known as Spookunora 16:54 >_> 16:55 -!- Porkman has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00 !tell ais523 So regarding brandings and stuff. Would it be a good idea if you could set a high priority in tilesets? Something like (tile match): bgblue+1 basechar. It could be used for cases like fixing the object pile issue I was having with slashem-16 and making stair branding overriding object pile branding 17:00 Will do, FIQ! 17:03 !who 17:03 FIQ: Luxidream [10fh] tkirby [10fh] 17:03 mhm 17:03 "that's right, all shall know the power of fiqhack" 17:06 heh 17:06 !tell LarienTelrunya: YANI for slex: nigerian prince monster. can be paid, will absolutely give make twice what you gave him. totally. guarenteed 17:06 Will do, ri-corpse-san! 17:06 sawe there 7 ppl playing at once earlier today 17:06 yep 17:06 neat :) 17:07 k2, is it true this used to be a halo server? :p 17:07 and a cs:s one 17:07 I was reading old hardfought.org posts 17:07 yes very much so 17:07 lol 17:07 hardfought started out as quake3/counterstike server back in 2000 17:07 YASI: you can teleport dungeon features 17:07 as in original counterstrike 17:07 i.e. fountains, sinks, thrones, trees, etc. 17:08 k2: yeah, I've played it once or twice 17:08 a friend of mine has it 17:08 I only have csgo 17:08 so much history with hdf, its nuts 17:08 lol 17:08 site turns 17 on sunday 17:09 really? 17:09 congrats I guess 17:09 yup 17:09 thanks 17:09 taht's older than me 17:09 I'm not even through high school 17:09 this channel, when it was on gamersnet, used to have upwards of 300 ppl at any given time 17:09 heh 17:10 ri-corpse-san how old are you? 17:10 turning 15 soon >_> 17:10 ri-corpse-san: lol 17:10 :p 17:11 ri-corpse-san: should have a 1% of actually doing it :P 17:11 pay back twice that is 17:11 hah damn 17:11 no 17:11 the source should do that 17:11 and by all appearances look like that 17:11 you're around the age i was when i first discivered hack 17:11 but that should actually segfault :p 17:11 k2: I've been playing nethack for 2 years now I think 17:11 i was 13-14 yrs old 17:12 a friend of mine, 2 yrs older than me, told me about it :p 17:12 discovered 17:12 ffs 17:12 and my mom has stories of playing rogue as a kid 17:12 yup 17:12 buddy of mine 3 yrs younger than me showed me the game 17:12 cool :D 17:12 your mom played rogue? awesome 17:12 you should get her to play nethack with you 17:13 lol 17:13 she's not interested :p 17:13 aww :/ 17:13 my kid likes watching me play 17:13 does mauris ever come here? 17:13 k2: my younger brother does 17:13 mauris or lynn, either one 17:14 when she can start reading reliably she'll prob start asking to play with 17:14 they told me about nethack a while ago iirc (not the first friend to tho) 17:14 never seen either of those names here 17:14 hm ok 17:14 probably in #nethack though 17:14 or asc.run, they're in the EU 17:30 huh, is the wish bot down? 17:32 !pign 17:32 !ping 17:32 ri-corpse-san: Pong! 17:32 !help 17:32 ri-corpse-san: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 17:32 !stats 17:32 !rng 17:32 ri-corpse-san: !rng thomas richard harold ; !rng do dishes|play nethack ; !rng 1-100 17:33 !8ball is the bot semi-down? 17:33 ri-corpse-san: Outlook good 17:34 -!- Tokage has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:38 -!- ri-corpse-san has quit [Quit: horrible internet is horrible] 17:45 -!- tacco| has quit [] 17:51 YANI: Walkyries always behave as if they were wearing snow boots when walking on ice (they never stumble). 17:51 *Valkyries 17:51 YANI: in variants that have mud or muddy swamp terrain, mud boots have a benefit on that terrain (it'd depend on what the terrain does). 17:52 I also think jungle boots should do something, but not sure what. 17:59 YASI: valkyries always start with snow boots -- whether they're levitation, kicking or speed boots 18:01 One terrain that would be nice to add for my quest level redesign is hedge terrain. 18:01 Bright green #, blocks movement but not sight 18:06 I suppose iron bars already behave the same way but they don't really make sense in certain contexts. 18:16 ?your sins do not demand punishment 18:19 !who 18:19 FIQ: No current players 18:19 rip 18:20 !8ball what are your opinions on microsoft email clients? 18:20 aosdict: Very doubtful 18:20 I'll take what I can get 18:35 !8ball do you like outlook express 18:35 FIQ: Better not tell you now 18:50 !8ball Do you like the windows mail app? 18:50 Spookunora: Ask again later 18:52 Beholder is being very evasive about this 18:53 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 18:53 !8ball what are some good or bad ways to connect to an exchange server? 18:53 aosdict: My sources say no 18:53 ... 18:54 aosdict, it only really makes sense for yes/no questions 18:54 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 126 points, killed by a jackal on hardfought 18:55 hardfought is a hell of a drug 18:55 for jackals, apparently 18:55 1782 hp 18:55 !8ball Will porkman ascend? 18:55 Spookunora: My sources say no 18:55 RIP 18:55 !8ball should nethack variants be easier? 18:55 bug_sniper: Most likely 18:56 !8ball is slex winnable? 18:56 Spookunora: You may rely on it 18:56 Huh 18:56 Clearly it's winnable. What is unclear is whether anyone besides Amy can win it. 18:58 slashem extended you mean? 18:58 yes 18:58 super lotsa added stuff hack extended magic extended 19:11 DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 90 points, killed by a water demon on altorg 19:12 -!- Porkmantwo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:19 DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 10530 points, killed by a minotaur on hardfought 19:21 DIED: k2 (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 55 points, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph on hdf-eu 19:32 K2: I don't think I've accepted the zapm challenge yet 19:32 so why can I play it? 19:33 its set so you have to accept the challenge before you can play 19:33 and i think you won that challenge 19:33 Well, yes 19:33 But you removed that marker 19:33 Didn't you? 19:33 lemme look 19:33 Both the victory itself and the challenge acceptance 19:34 it just shows that you accepted the challenge 19:34 hmm 19:34 oh i see 19:35 i needed to kill both 19:35 ok so i removed the zapm accept from you 19:35 so next time you get a wish, you can accept and should be able to play zapm 19:36 *and then 19:36 dev/null 3.6.0 updated (main plus both remote servers) 19:38 I accidentally chose one of those sidequests and wasn't able to dig or move boulders. 19:38 I was asked on dlvl1. Can I say no and accept them later? 19:39 K2: hmm I can still play it 19:40 on eu 19:40 and on proper hdf too 19:41 i only changed it on main hdf 19:41 i didnt mess with any challenges on the remotes 19:41 you shouldnt be able to play zapm at all on main hdf 19:42 hmm 19:42 6well 19:42 I can 19:42 spec 19:42 i believe you 19:42 !who 19:42 FIQ: No current players 19:42 boo 19:42 3.6.x does not have whereis patch 19:42 oh 19:42 well 19:42 nh4+friends doesn't either 19:42 beholder doesnt track the devnull bit 19:43 ahh ok 19:43 it prob should 19:43 yeah, would be a bit confusing otherwise 19:43 with server and beholder not matching 19:43 have to be careful not to dbl spam 19:43 ok hrm 19:43 but yeah 19:43 b) FIQ zapm 91x 24 2017-10-19 02:42:08 1m 27s 0 19:43 :P 19:44 i get the 'Somehow, you cannot find it within yourself to seek the Bizarro Orgasmatron. You feel a need to return to the Dungeons of Doom To discover what you truly wish for.' if i try toi play zapm 19:44 hax 19:45 can you save game and go back to it? 19:45 one sec 19:46 rip 19:46 can't anymore 19:46 ok i see 19:46 all good then I guess? 19:46 what was wrong 19:46 yeah think so 19:46 i removed the challenge flag for you accepting zapm 19:46 or at least i thought i had 19:46 its gone for sure now 19:47 yeah but nothing happened the first time around :P 19:47 um shit 19:47 oh well, seems to be good now I guess 19:47 now its back lol 19:47 lol 19:47 but I haven't accepted it... 19:47 remote polling? 19:47 one sec 19:48 I guess it doesn't matter? 19:48 as l ong as it's properly cleared when devnull starts for real 19:48 fygar and his pookas. 19:48 lol 19:48 *as long 19:48 I guess I'm stuck with this? 19:48 bouquet: Yes 19:48 damnit 19:48 Until you complete the challenge 19:49 Or die 19:49 I have died! 19:49 this is 2 characters after I accepted the challenge 19:49 It should ask you each new game 19:49 yup the challenge stays with you until you finish it 19:49 At least that's how it worked in old devnull 19:49 it seems to be stuck 19:49 Oh? Ok 19:50 dang. 19:50 there was a way i think on old devnull, you could clear challenges through the web site 19:50 So that explains why the grue thing was so frustrating to me 19:50 since I couldn't make it go away 19:50 without permanently disabling it 19:50 or clearing it 19:51 Is there any way to clear it? 19:51 bouquet I can make the digdug challenge acceptance go away if you like 19:51 please :) 19:51 I accepted the boulder one, too. 19:51 I think. 19:51 no freebies when the tourney starts proper though ;) 19:51 save your game and log out of the server for a min please 19:51 I was a couple days ago 19:51 FIQ: of course ;) 19:52 clear all challenges assigned to me 19:52 please 19:52 bouquet you want that one removed as well? the pool challenge isnt difficult 19:52 ok 19:52 NH4 fuzzer still going lol 19:52 at 265k tests ran atm 19:52 Ya. When the tourney starts I'll actually read up on this before I accept everything 19:52 good deal 19:52 ok one sec 19:52 I was just getting the lay of the land. Didn't realize it was for realsies. 19:53 I'm using e6.alt.org in case it matters 19:54 right its not official yet 19:54 nov 1st will be 19:55 right now just play testing, working out any bugs and such 19:55 FIQ: it's rewritting bouquet challenge flags as well... 19:55 K2: Presumably due to challenge flag remote propagation? 19:55 i think so 19:56 ok one more min bouquet ;) 19:56 I'm not in a rush. I got work going in the background 19:56 Can we get the challenge prompts later in the game or do we have to commit right on dlvl1? 19:57 you have to commit whenever you do the action that is prevented 19:57 taming for waldo 19:57 eating fruit for pacman 19:57 digging for digdug 19:57 etc 19:57 if you deny the challenge in one game, can you still accept it in later games? 19:57 not sure 19:58 yes you can 19:58 ok 19:58 you can opt to ignore the challenge completely 19:58 or be presented it next game 19:58 right, and that doesn't affect your current gameplay. 19:58 ok so its being rewritten on west coast remote too... 19:58 Like if I want to wish and don't want to take the ZAPM challenge in this game, I can still wish? 19:58 the 1st wish will be denied either way 19:59 until you clear zapm 19:59 i think i have to kill them all at same time between all three 19:59 unless that was changed 19:59 FIQ: so a large portion of mechanics simply do not work until you clear their challenges? 19:59 yep 19:59 well 19:59 I was under the impression that you could ignore the challenge and play the game normally. 19:59 brutal. So I can't even dig until I accept and beat the digdug challenge? 20:00 if you ignore for current game 20:00 the 1st loss doesn't really matter 20:00 except for zapm 20:00 i.e. get wishes without having to play zapm 20:00 cuz I'm stuck in a vault with a pile of money right now and I'd love to dig out :) 20:01 ok i got em all between all three 20:01 and they ALL came back lol 20:01 aosdict: IIRC even if you ignore the challenge temporarily, you'd forfeit the *1st* action (which is kinda major for zapm because wishing) 20:01 might misremember though 20:02 what am I not seeing... 20:02 K2: the anticheat system is working against you ;) 20:02 still getting the "too scared of fygar and poogas" message. 20:03 * aosdict waits for everyone to get killed by a trickery 20:03 Just clear it :P 20:03 i have an idea 20:03 one min 20:03 the challenge is at minetown 20:04 ok i see 20:04 its Tangles synclogs script 20:04 its working too well lol 20:05 haha 20:05 well it's supposed to apply immediately 20:05 :P 20:05 it runs once a min 20:05 ten seconds past the minute 20:05 so challenge logs have ample time to get pulled over 20:05 and processed 20:05 ok 20:08 this is the script 20:08 http://sprunge.us/YfBG 20:10 aosdict: If you decline the zapm challenge you still get the wish. 20:10 err. FIQ: ^ 20:11 still relevant to me :) 20:11 :) 20:12 i think i see whats going on in the synclog script 20:12 If you ACCEPT the challenge, you are unable to wish until you complete the challenge, so you lose the wish. 20:12 even if i delete the challenge flags under every servers dgldir/devnull/challenge dir 20:12 those flags still exist in the compiled dn36_log file 20:12 which the script grabs 20:13 K2: If the flag exists on *any* server, it will sync to all the servers. 20:13 # collect differences between here and remote 20:13 cat $MYLOG $TMPC | sort | uniq -u >> $TMPD 20:13 $MYLOG 20:13 via the challenge log. 20:13 yeah 20:13 hahahah 20:14 i would need to suspend the crontab jobs 20:14 they run once a min now 20:14 ah ok. 20:14 i'm not that fast to kill all the flags and the entries in all three dn36_log files within a min 20:15 bwahaha 20:15 easy enough to suspend (or better, extend the time) of the crontab entries 20:15 fix 20:15 then reenable original time 20:15 okso 20:16 and yes.. the line will disappear from the log next time it gets recreated locally, but if it appears in any other log (such as remote ones that were not regenerated before you fetched them) it will put the file back again. 20:16 if a player accepted a challenge, say grue 20:16 no digdug 20:16 and they're playing and dying and cant ever dig 20:16 It's not really designed to rollback challenge acceptance. 20:16 and they say 'fuck this, i dont want challenge anymore' 20:17 K2: Yes you can ignore the challenge permanently. 20:17 the old dev/null, you could go on the website and kill the challenge correct? 20:17 Yeah actually that was an option in the web interface. 20:17 otherwise they'd be stuck 20:17 yeah. 20:17 i wonder if Mandevil can work that in 20:18 click 'here' to run script which will automagically do what I'm about to do manually for FIQ and bouquet 20:18 YANI: add a special "summoned" flag to monsters created by you through magical means. Monsters with this flag grant no experience. 20:19 K2: to ignore a challenge permanently, you just need to touch the ignore flag file. 20:19 and that will sync. 20:19 Tangles: yeah your synclog works like a charm 20:19 yup 20:20 so you don't need to stress about removing accept flags or anything. 20:20 all the challenge code checks the ignore flag first, so the challenge will never be offered again. 20:21 gotcha 20:21 obviously for this testing stage, it would be nice to have a way to roll back the challenges so people can do them over. 20:21 just remove the flags altogether 20:29 bouquet: see if you can dig now 20:30 that did the trick. Thanks! 20:30 no prob 20:30 thank Tangles, he saved me some work 20:31 Is it a bug that my accepting the challenge persisted across characters? 20:31 however - if you dont chown the *ignore flags as games:games, some weird things happen 20:31 bouquet no it is not 20:31 its supposed to sync across all servers 20:31 Yeah. Maybe I could script a couple of lines to do the deletion and regenerate the logs (maybe with some ssh commands included to go through all the servers) then as long as you do it between cron runs it should clean up nicely. 20:32 K2: There is a comment in the script to that effect. 20:32 yeah 20:32 https://www.hardfought.org/challenge/dn36_log 20:32 look up top 20:32 that happened because i touched the ignore flag as root 20:32 Yes. that is what happens. 20:32 oops 20:32 :P 20:32 I guess I'll skip the challenges until I'm truly ready to embark on them 20:33 ok 20:36 It happens because of the dirty way I'm scraping the output of ls -l, and using 'cut' to split out the different fields using a space as the field separator. 20:37 and, if you get different file owners in there it will pad out the different length fields with more spaces. 20:37 and that screws things up in a big way. 20:37 ah 20:38 I could do more processing to work around it, but if it's running every minute I want to keep it as light as possible. 20:38 yeah so just using touch to add an ignore flag for that player/challenge worked well without having to delete a bunch of other statements. just need to make sure to touch the file as games:games 20:39 yeah. 20:40 so the two week out reddit post is a day late :) 20:40 i lost track of time 20:40 you wanted to do the next post though right Tangles? 20:41 K2: Yes I am aware :( 20:41 :/ 20:41 no sad face 20:41 I'll do something tonight. 20:41 we've both been busy 20:42 new job is a lot of challenges. the old sys admin who left over a month ago left hardly any notes on how anything ran 20:42 and the IT manager i answer to isnt much help 20:42 Yeah... that can be intimidating at first. 20:42 satisfying though, as you start to settle into it 20:42 yes for sure 20:43 best way to learn 20:43 gonna have to brush up on my cisco router programming skills 20:43 nice :) 20:43 hahahah 20:43 or lack thereof... 20:44 last time i youched a cisco router to program it for anything was over a year ago 20:44 *touched 20:44 i'll get it though 20:44 I need to go and start putting some servers in racks. I've been waiting all day for them to unbox themselves, and they haven't even started! 20:45 uh oh 20:45 heh 20:45 ok go work 20:45 so I'll be back in a couple of hours maybe. 20:45 i'll do a recap of whats been accomplished today so you have some stuff to post about 20:45 in the dev chan 20:48 "This challenge will only be blocked until the end of the game" I assume that means until this character dies? 20:49 yes 20:54 it doesn't mention the name of the challenge up front. Is it assumed that players would know what prompts each one? 20:57 yes 20:58 with a lot of things, we've kept things the same as how the original /dev/null/nethack tournament did things 21:04 gnite all 21:27 -!- bouquet has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 56.0/20171006080225]] 21:30 night k2 21:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 21:36 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v raisse] by ChanServ 22:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:40 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 22:57 . 22:57 LarienTelrunya: Message from jonadab at 2017-10-18 17:39 EDT: the underrated southward appears not to be in the pinothing yet, it must be out of date. 22:57 LarienTelrunya: Message from ri-corpse-san at 2017-10-18 20:06 EDT: YANI for slex: nigerian prince monster. can be paid, will absolutely give make twice what you gave him. totally. guarenteed 22:57 !tell jonadab yeah, pinobot's last update was before the script-generated monsters got added 22:57 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 23:04 !tell ri-corpse-san oh my god, you know Lynn??? can you make her appear here? it would be awesome if she got back into slex! 23:04 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 23:04 !tell ri-corpse-san and she should bring Emily with her too ♥ 23:04 Will do, LarienTelrunya! 23:05 !8ball will I ever see the fleecy Lynn again? 23:05 LarienTelrunya: Reply hazy try again 23:17 -!- khoR_ has joined #hardfought 23:17 Good morning peeps (and Mandevil) 23:55 Mandevil isn't a peep? 23:55 :< 23:56 * Mandevil is decent citizen 23:56 He doesn't like being a peep, so he gets preferential treatement. 23:57 can I get preferential treatment too? 23:58 Sure, good morning peeps (and Mandevil and Elronnd) 23:58 wait, why can't I be a peep? :< 23:59 You wanted preferential treatment, you peep!