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00:21 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 61 points, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
00:26 <raisse> note to self: Self, dipping is as dangerous as quaffing.
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01:19 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 957 points, killed by a water moccasin on hdf-eu
01:20 <raisse> ditto (but this was trying to kill the straggler at the altar)
01:46 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 601 points, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu
01:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 669 points, killed by a hobbit on hdf-eu
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02:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 02:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
02:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 21:59:59.
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04:34 <PsyMar> any chance we play... oh. tribute tournament
04:36 <PsyMar> aww crap, 3.6?!?!?
04:36 <K2> :)
04:36 <PsyMar> never mind, I'll be back in june
04:37 <K2> this is it for devnull just fyi
04:37 <PsyMar> yeah I know
04:37 <K2> :/
04:37 <PsyMar> I don't care, I'm not gonna do any better than 2009, ESPECIALLY with 3.6 out
04:37 <PsyMar> 2009 was the year I got double top with bells
04:37 <K2> oh wow, nice
04:37 <PsyMar> and maybe also hat trick? not sure, I know I did that in the june 2007 NAO tourney
04:38 <K2> well, never too late to change your mind if you want to give it a whirl
04:38 <PsyMar> ah, no, I just had double top with bells and high wizard
04:38 <K2> but i understand
04:38 <PsyMar> ....no, high wizard was also 2007 NAO
04:38 <PsyMar> I'm just not happy with some of the changes in 3.6
04:38 <PsyMar> and I don't want to try to learn it in a week
04:38 <PsyMar> honestly the scheduling wasn't great for me anyway
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04:39 <K2> my wedding anniversary is on nov 1st. tell me about it :)
04:39 <PsyMar> and I need to focus on getting ranger/monk done for the career grand slam in 3.4.3
04:39 <PsyMar> then I can start either playing 3.6 or going for conducts
04:39 <PsyMar> or working on my 343 bot
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04:40 <K2> 3.6.1 has come a long way from 3.6.0, have you tried the latest dev release?
04:40 <PsyMar> (I haven't actualyl even PLAYED a monk yet, but rangers I've splatted on astral and also to quest nemesis Ill)
04:40 <PsyMar> I didn't know there was a 361
04:40 <K2> NAO has it up as does hardfought
04:40 <PsyMar> changelog anywhere?
04:40 <K2> yes
04:40 <K2> one sec
04:40 <PsyMar> basically if sokoban is still harder, and orctown still exists, I'm not interested >_>
04:41 <PsyMar> at least this simplifies my program I was gonna write, I don't have to write it to be devnull compatible
04:41 <K2> hmm cant load nethackwiki from here (work) if you search 3.6.1 on there you'll find a decent article/changelog for it
04:41 <PsyMar> assuming I finish that ever anyway
04:42 <PsyMar> ok
04:42 <PsyMar> whoa
04:42 <PsyMar> bug fixes include: 
04:42 <PsyMar> Preventing the chest in the castle with the wand of wishing from being generated as trapped.
04:43 <PsyMar> I had no idea that was a bug
04:43 <K2> well.... its not all bug fixes
04:43 <PsyMar> it's listed under "Many bug fixes, including"
04:44 <K2> huh
04:45 <PsyMar> hm
04:45 <PsyMar> Barbarians and samurai can now enhance their special spell's school (escape and divination respectively) to Basic.
04:45 <PsyMar> can Cavemen cast dig yet
04:45 <PsyMar> WOOO
04:45 <PsyMar> A warning is given before levitation from the spell or potion is about to expire.
04:45 <PsyMar> and the vibrating square glyph was changed?  I always did that in options so I could see the quest portal too
04:45 <PsyMar> and the portals on the planes
04:46 <PsyMar> although I don't remember the vibrating square HAVING a glyph so
04:46 <K2> yup that's new
04:46 <PsyMar> The Wizard of Yendor will steal any quest artifact, not just your role's.
04:46 <PsyMar> ugh
04:46 <K2> that was changed back i think
04:46 <PsyMar> it was?
04:47 <K2> that wiki article may not be up to date with the very latest changes
04:47 <K2> yeah i believe so
04:47 <PsyMar> ah yes
04:47 <K2> orctown still exists :P
04:47 <PsyMar> rofl
04:47 <PsyMar> slice of {pizza,cake,&} pluralized as "slouse of ..." due to false match
04:47 <PsyMar> with "lice" (discovered pre-3.6.0-release)
04:49 <PsyMar> oh
04:49 <K2> the commits on the github repo is what you'd really want to look at, esp for the latest. devteam has been pushing updates regularly to the dev build
04:49 <PsyMar> it was a bug /in 3.6/ that the castle chest could be trapped
04:49 <PsyMar> it was NOT a bug in 3.4.3
04:49 <PsyMar> because the changelog says "actually make the castle chest not trapped"
04:49 <PsyMar> so apparently they meant to do that but failed
04:50 <K2> ah
04:51 <PsyMar> dopplegangers can pose as RIDERS?!?
04:51 <PsyMar> since doppelganger posing as Rider could never revert to innate form,
04:51 <PsyMar> protection from shape changers turned it into genuine Rider
04:52 <PsyMar> monsters fleeing up the upstairs on level 1 were supposed to escape the
04:52 <PsyMar> dungeon but ended up arriving on Plane of Earth
04:52 <PsyMar> if only that bug had been around for DeathOnAStick
04:55 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 11976 points, killed by a chameleon imitating a master lich on hdf-eu
04:57 <PsyMar> novels are made of paper, not gold hahahaha
05:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 05:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
05:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 18:59:59.
05:01 <PsyMar> sigh, and the wizard of yendor can apparently still steal all quest artis
05:01 <K2> hrm
05:01 <PsyMar> based on git
05:02 <K2> i could have sworn that was fixed
05:02 <PsyMar> git says that was the fix
05:02 <K2> ok
05:02 <PsyMar> unless that was the bug?
05:03 <K2> i thought the bug which was introduced to 3.6.x was that the wizard would steal any quest artifact
05:03 <K2> and they changed it back to default wizard behavior 
05:03 <K2> i need to dbl check
05:03 <K2> havent played 3.6.1 in awhile
05:03 <PsyMar> hm, "Wizard will now steal any quest artifact from hero, not just own role's" is listed under "
05:03 <PsyMar> General Fixes and Modified Features"
05:06 <PsyMar> hm, Elbereth no longer eroding is nice for those of us that have powerful pets
05:06 <PsyMar> (unless you take a hostile action)
05:06 <PsyMar> huge buff for healers
05:06 <PsyMar> and pacifists
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06:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 06:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
06:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 17:59:59.
06:06 <aosdict> PsyMar: yes, it was one of those infuriating things the devteam has done
06:07 <aosdict> IIRC, someone made a poorly-worded request or a github issue that "the Wizard of Yendor shouldn't be able to steal quest artifacts"
06:07 <aosdict> like, at all, even the hero's own artifact
06:08 <aosdict> and they considered it and said "hmm... how about we make him steal any quest artifact instead."
06:10 <aosdict> I guess I appreciate the consistency now, though. (No particular reason you should have the PYEC be "safe" if you have wished it up, for example.)
06:10 <aosdict> PsyMar: actually there have been a lot of 3.4.3ers complaining about 3.6.1 Elbereth as well
06:10 <aosdict> because you cannot stand on it and fight monsters with impunity
06:11 <aosdict> (which was way overpowered)
07:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 07:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
07:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 16:59:59.
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08:27 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3688 points, killed by a giant beetle on hdf-eu
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08:37 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Tangles (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 0 points, killed by kicking something weird on altorg
08:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bugsniper (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 0 points, killed by a falling object on hardfought
08:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 4191 points, killed by a gnome lord on hdf-eu
08:58 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: bugsniper (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 799 points, killed by kicking something weird on hardfought
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09:16 <PsyMar> aosdict: yeah, it was, which is why I like 3.6.1 elbereth, it's still overpowered if you have a strong pet
09:16 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 688 points, killed by a werejackal on hdf-eu
09:16 <raisse> I like 3.6.1 elbereth too
09:16 <PsyMar> and you can still use scare monster for the old effect
09:16 <PsyMar> so if you get one of those save it for bigroom
09:17 <raisse> better even, because it scares @ too
09:17 <raisse> the only thing it doesn't scare is A
09:17 <PsyMar> scare monster scares @?!?
09:17 <raisse> yes
09:17 <PsyMar> I did not know that
09:17 <raisse> also your own pet
09:17 <PsyMar> does this include priests on astral
09:17 <PsyMar> and is this true in 3.4.3
09:17 <raisse> I don't know, haven't tried
09:18 <raisse> and no, not until 3.6
09:18 <PsyMar> ah
09:18 <aosdict> PsyMar: it's really a subtle metaphor about how humans are the real monsters
09:18 <aosdict> :P
09:18 <PsyMar> ahhhh
09:18 <PsyMar> and elves
09:18 <PsyMar> I play every role nonhuman when possible anyway, because infravision
09:18 <raisse> if you find 100zm scrolls in a shop and you don't have a pet with you, kick them as close to the shk if you can so you can see if they flee
09:19 <aosdict> inb4 the devteam makes kicking scrolls of scare monster use them up
09:19 <PsyMar> jaj
09:19 <PsyMar> *hah
09:20 <PsyMar> never occurred to me to curse-test 100zm scrolls in shops with a pet
09:20 <raisse> aosdict: you know you can now typename stuff on the floor, even stuff you're standing on, right?
09:20 <aosdict> yes
09:21 <PsyMar> I always just #chat-priced them if I didn't have the money for one
09:21 <PsyMar> I usually keep my pets OUT of shops so I don't start pricing the same things or lose a pet to a mimic
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09:39 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 838 points, killed by a werejackal on hdf-eu
09:49 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 704 points, killed by a garter snake, while fainted from lack of food on hdf-eu
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10:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 10:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
10:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 13:59:59.
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10:33 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: RyanDorkoski (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 5969 points, eaten by a Grue on hardfought
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10:35 <RyanDorkoski> I was just eaten by a Grue. Seemed quite unfair because my HP didn't change, and it only took 3 steps. Whats the story with this?
10:35 <aosdict> you accepted the challenge for stepping into a dark room?
10:35 <RyanDorkoski> I am not sure. Maybe?
10:35 <aosdict> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki//dev/null/nethack_tournament#Grue_challenge
10:35 <RyanDorkoski> I finished the Poolroom, and accepted some challenge that wouldn't let me dig.
10:35 <RyanDorkoski> thanks
10:37 <RyanDorkoski> thats a stupid challenge. It should warn you that you 'will actually die' within 3 turns. Also, how do you get to this device without being insta-killed?
10:37 <RyanDorkoski> Part of the challenge is 'exploring' the challenge, isn't it?
10:37 <aosdict> carry a light source
10:37 <RyanDorkoski> alright. Thanks. 
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11:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The time is 11:00:00(PDT) on Tuesday, October 24, 2017
11:00 <NotTheOracle\dnt> The tournament starts in 7 days, 12:59:59.
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11:15 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 663 points, killed by a boulder on hardfought
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11:45 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: RyanDorkoski (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 885 points, died of starvation, while fainted from lack of food on hardfought
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12:25 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: raelonmasters (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 0 points, killed by a falling rock on hardfought
12:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: raelonmasters (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 89 points, killed by a newt on hardfought
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16:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 11 points, killed by a jackal on hardfought
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16:08 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: k2 (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 24 points, killed by a newt on hardfought
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16:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> Greetings, Adventurers!
16:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> It's 28 minutes after 16 o'clock on Tuesday, October 24 (PDT), and this is a Special Bulletin.
16:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> So far today, 0 games ended, with 0 ascensions.
16:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> There are 7 days, 7 hours and 31 minutes left until the 2017 Tournament
16:28 <NotTheOracle\dnt> Let's be careful out there.
16:29 <K2> hmm
16:29 <K2> I issued &news in #hardfought and it did it here ;)
16:29 <K2> &help
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> &ping    - ping!
&time    - Get time remaining
&news    - request a tournament news bulletin
&notify  - Send message to tournament staff
&lastgame/&lastasc - dumplogs from last game for player/server
&scores  - Link to scoreboard
&servers - List of servers where you can play
&help    - This help.
16:29 <K2> &news
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> Greetings, Adventurers!
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> It's 29 minutes after 16 o'clock on Tuesday, October 24 (PDT), and this is a Special Bulletin.
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> So far today, 0 games ended, with 0 ascensions.
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> There are 7 days, 7 hours and 30 minutes left until the 2017 Tournament
16:29 <NotTheOracle\dnt> Let's be careful out there.
16:29 <K2> ok
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18:36 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Glord accepted the Grue challenge.
18:36 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Glord (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 303 points, 673 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought
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20:59 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Graylight accepted the Pool challenge.
21:03 <NotTheOracle\dnt> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! Graylight accepted the Grue challenge.
21:04 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Graylight (Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu), 420 points, 807 turns, eaten by a Grue on hardfought
21:06 <Tangles> accept Grue challenge, get eaten by a Grue. That's working as intended :)
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21:52 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: dgoddard (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 16529 points, 6078 turns, petrified by a cockatrice on hardfought
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22:19 <NotTheOracle\dnt> DIED: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 480 points, 1606 turns, killed by a giant bat on hdf-eu
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